From: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>
To: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@qumranet.com>
Cc: Robin Holt <holt@sgi.com>,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, Avi Kivity <avi@qumranet.com>,
Izik Eidus <izike@qumranet.com>,
kvm-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
general@lists.openfabrics.org,
Steve Wise <swise@opengridcomputing.com>,
Roland Dreier <rdreier@cisco.com>,
Kanoj Sarcar <kanojsarcar@yahoo.com>,
steiner@sgi.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-mm@kvack.org, daniel.blueman@quadrics.com,
Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mmu notifiers #v6
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 06:02:23 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080221050223.GD15215@wotan.suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080220120324.GW7128@v2.random>
On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 01:03:24PM +0100, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
> If there's agreement that the VM should alter its locking from
> spinlock to mutex for its own good, then Christoph's
> one-config-option-fits-all becomes a lot more appealing (replacing RCU
> with a mutex in the mmu notifier list registration locking isn't my
> main worry and the non-sleeping-users may be ok to live with it).
Just from a high level view, in some cases we can just say that no we
aren't going to support this. And this may well be one of those cases.
The more constraints placed on the VM, the harder it becomes to
improve and adapt in future. And this seems like a pretty big restriction.
(especially if we can eg. work around it completely by having a special
purpose driver to get_user_pages on comm buffers as I suggested in the
other mail).
At any rate, I believe Andrea's patch really places minimal or no further
constraints than a regular CPU TLB (or the hash tables that some archs
implement). So we're kind of in 2 different leagues here.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-02-21 5:02 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 115+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-02-19 8:43 [patch] my mmu notifiers Nick Piggin
2008-02-19 8:44 ` [patch] my mmu notifier sample driver Nick Piggin
2008-02-19 11:59 ` [patch] my mmu notifiers Robin Holt
2008-02-19 13:58 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-02-19 14:27 ` Jack Steiner
2008-02-19 23:04 ` Nick Piggin
2008-02-20 0:52 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-02-20 2:46 ` Robin Holt
2008-02-27 22:50 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-19 22:59 ` Nick Piggin
2008-02-20 0:46 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-02-27 22:55 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-19 23:11 ` Nick Piggin
2008-02-19 23:40 ` Jack Steiner
2008-02-21 4:42 ` Nick Piggin
2008-02-22 16:31 ` Jack Steiner
2008-02-20 1:09 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-02-20 10:39 ` [PATCH] mmu notifiers #v6 Andrea Arcangeli
2008-02-20 10:45 ` [PATCH] KVM swapping (+ seqlock fix) with " Andrea Arcangeli
2008-02-27 22:06 ` [PATCH] KVM swapping with mmu notifiers #v7 Andrea Arcangeli
2008-02-28 8:42 ` izik eidus
2008-02-20 11:33 ` [PATCH] mmu notifiers #v6 Robin Holt
2008-02-20 12:03 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-02-20 12:24 ` Robin Holt
2008-02-20 12:32 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-02-20 13:15 ` Robin Holt
2008-02-21 5:02 ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2008-02-20 14:41 ` Robin Holt
2008-02-20 15:34 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-02-20 21:03 ` Jack Steiner
2008-02-21 4:54 ` Nick Piggin
2008-02-21 14:40 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-02-21 16:10 ` Jack Steiner
2008-02-27 19:26 ` [PATCH] mmu notifiers #v7 Andrea Arcangeli
2008-02-27 20:04 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-02-27 23:06 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-27 23:43 ` [kvm-devel] " Andrea Arcangeli
2008-02-28 0:08 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-28 0:21 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-02-28 0:24 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-28 19:48 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-28 21:52 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-02-28 22:00 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-28 23:17 ` Jack Steiner
2008-02-29 0:24 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-02-29 1:13 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-28 23:05 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-29 0:40 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-02-29 0:56 ` Andrew Morton
2008-02-29 1:03 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-29 13:09 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-02-29 19:46 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-03-02 15:54 ` [PATCH] mmu notifiers #v8 Andrea Arcangeli
2008-03-02 16:03 ` [PATCH] mmu notifiers #v8 + xpmem Andrea Arcangeli
2008-03-02 16:23 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-03-03 3:29 ` [PATCH] mmu notifiers #v8 Nick Piggin
2008-03-03 12:51 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-03-03 13:10 ` Nick Piggin
2008-03-03 13:24 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-03-03 15:18 ` Jack Steiner
2008-03-03 16:59 ` Nick Piggin
2008-03-03 18:06 ` Jack Steiner
2008-03-03 18:09 ` Avi Kivity
2008-03-03 18:23 ` Jack Steiner
2008-03-03 18:45 ` Nick Piggin
2008-03-03 19:15 ` Jack Steiner
2008-03-04 10:35 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-03-04 14:44 ` Jack Steiner
2008-03-03 19:02 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-03-03 19:01 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-03-03 21:15 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-03-05 0:37 ` Nick Piggin
2008-03-05 18:48 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-03-06 2:59 ` Nick Piggin
2008-03-03 3:33 ` Nick Piggin
2008-03-03 19:03 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-03-03 3:34 ` Nick Piggin
2008-03-03 19:04 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-03-03 3:39 ` Nick Piggin
2008-03-03 21:37 ` [PATCH] mmu notifiers #v9 Andrea Arcangeli
2008-03-03 22:05 ` [PATCH] KVM swapping with " Andrea Arcangeli
2008-03-04 0:44 ` izik eidus
2008-03-04 7:31 ` [RFC] Notifier for Externally Mapped Memory (EMM) Christoph Lameter
2008-03-04 7:34 ` [Early draft] Conversion of i_mmap_lock to semaphore Christoph Lameter
2008-03-04 13:30 ` [RFC] Notifier for Externally Mapped Memory (EMM) Andrea Arcangeli
2008-03-04 19:00 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-03-04 22:20 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-03-04 22:35 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-03-04 22:42 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-03-04 23:14 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-03-04 23:25 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-03-04 23:30 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-03-05 5:09 ` Avi Kivity
2008-03-05 9:47 ` Robin Holt
2008-03-05 9:53 ` Avi Kivity
2008-03-05 10:02 ` [kvm-devel] " Dor Laor
2008-03-07 15:17 ` [PATCH] 2/4 move all invalidate_page outside of PT lock (#v9 was 1/4) Andrea Arcangeli
2008-03-07 15:23 ` [PATCH] 3/4 combine RCU with seqlock to allow mmu notifier methods to sleep " Andrea Arcangeli
2008-03-07 15:52 ` [PATCH] 4/4 i_mmap_lock spinlock2rwsem " Andrea Arcangeli
2008-03-07 20:03 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-03-19 21:27 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-03-07 16:52 ` [PATCH] 3/4 combine RCU with seqlock to allow mmu notifier methods to sleep " Peter Zijlstra
2008-03-07 17:50 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-03-07 18:01 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-03-07 18:45 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-03-07 19:47 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-03-07 20:15 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-03-07 20:12 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-03-07 20:10 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-03-07 20:00 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-03-07 19:54 ` [PATCH] 2/4 move all invalidate_page outside of PT lock " Christoph Lameter
2008-03-04 13:21 ` [PATCH] KVM swapping with mmu notifiers #v9 Andrea Arcangeli
2008-02-21 4:47 ` [patch] my mmu notifiers Nick Piggin
2008-02-20 2:49 ` Robin Holt
2008-02-27 22:56 ` Christoph Lameter
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