From: Matt Mackall <mpm@selenic.com>
To: Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>
Cc: Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com>,
Pekka Enberg <penberg@cs.helsinki.fi>,
linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [patch 0/8] slub: Fallback to order 0 and variable order slab support
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 13:01:26 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080304190126.GM10223@waste.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080304122008.GB19606@csn.ul.ie>
On Tue, Mar 04, 2008 at 12:20:08PM +0000, Mel Gorman wrote:
> On (28/02/08 20:48), Christoph Lameter didst pronounce:
> > This is the patchset that was posted two weeks ago modified according
> > to the feedback that Pekka gave. I would like to put these patches
> > into mm.
> >
>
> I haven't reviewed the patches properly but I put them through a quick test
> against 2.6.25-rc3 to see what the performnace was like and the superpage
> allocation success rates were like. Performance wise, it looked like
>
> Loss to Gain
> Kernbench Elapsed time -0.64% 0.32%
> Kernbench Total time -0.61% 0.48%
> Hackbench sockets-12 clients -2.95% 5.13%
> Hackbench pipes-12 clients -16.95% 9.27%
> TBench 4 clients -1.98% 8.2%
> DBench 4 clients (ext2) -5.9% 7.99%
>
> So, running with the high orders is not a clear-cut win to my eyes. What
> did you test to show that it was a general win justifying a high-order by
> default? From looking through, tbench seems to be the only obvious one to
> gain but the rest, it is not clear at all. I'll try give sysbench a spin
> later to see if it is clear-cut.
>
> However, in *all* cases, superpage allocations were less successful and in
> some cases it was severely regressed (one machine went from 81% success rate
> to 36%). Sufficient statistics are not gathered to see why this happened
> in retrospect but my suspicion would be that high-order RECLAIMABLE and
> UNMOVABLE slub allocations routinely fall back to the less fragmented
> MOVABLE pageblocks with these patches - something that is normally a very
> rare event. This change in assumption hurts fragmentation avoidance and
> chances are the long-term behaviour of these patches is not great.
>
> If this guess is correct, using a high-order size by default is a bad plan
> and it should only be set when it is known that the target workload benefits
> and superpage allocations are not a concern. Alternative, set high-order by
> default only for a limited number of caches that are RECLAIMABLE (or better
> yet ones we know can be directly reclaimed with the slub-defrag patches).
>
> As it is, this is painful from a fragmentation perspective and the
> performance win is not clear-cut.
Thanks for looking at this, Mel. Could you try testing.. umm...
slub_max_order=1? That's never going to get us more than one more
object per slab, but if we can go from 1 per page to 1.5 per page, it
might be worth it. Task structs are roughly in that size domain.
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Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <20080229044803.482012397@sgi.com>
[not found] ` <20080229044820.044485187@sgi.com>
2008-02-29 8:13 ` [patch 7/8] slub: Make the order configurable for each slab cache Pekka Enberg
2008-02-29 19:37 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-03-01 9:47 ` Pekka Enberg
2008-03-03 17:49 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-03-03 22:56 ` Pekka Enberg
2008-03-03 23:36 ` Christoph Lameter
[not found] ` <20080229044820.298792748@sgi.com>
2008-02-29 8:13 ` [patch 8/8] slub: Simplify any_slab_object checks Pekka Enberg
[not found] ` <20080229044819.800974712@sgi.com>
2008-02-29 8:19 ` [patch 6/8] slub: Adjust order boundaries and minimum objects per slab Pekka Enberg
2008-02-29 19:41 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-03-01 9:58 ` Pekka J Enberg
2008-03-03 17:52 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-03-03 21:34 ` Matt Mackall
2008-03-03 22:36 ` Christoph Lameter
[not found] ` <20080229044818.999367120@sgi.com>
2008-02-29 8:59 ` [patch 3/8] slub: Update statistics handling for variable order slabs Pekka Enberg
2008-02-29 19:43 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-03-01 10:29 ` Pekka Enberg
2008-03-04 12:20 ` [patch 0/8] slub: Fallback to order 0 and variable order slab support Mel Gorman
2008-03-04 18:53 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-03-05 18:28 ` Mel Gorman
2008-03-05 18:52 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-03-06 22:04 ` Mel Gorman
2008-03-06 22:18 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-03-07 12:17 ` Mel Gorman
2008-03-07 19:50 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-03-04 19:01 ` Matt Mackall [this message]
2008-03-05 0:04 ` Christoph Lameter
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