linux-mm.kvack.org archive mirror
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH prototype] [0/8] Predictive bitmaps for ELF executables
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 10:44:37 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080318104437.966c10ec.akpm@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080318172045.GI11966@one.firstfloor.org>

On Tue, 18 Mar 2008 18:20:45 +0100 Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org> wrote:

> > What's the permission problem?  executable-but-not-readable files?  Could
> 
> Not writable. 

Oh.

I doubt if a userspace implementation would even try to alter the ELF
files, really - there seems to be no point in it.   This is just complexity
which was added by trying to do it in the kernel.

> > be handled by passing your request to a suitable-privileged server process,
> > I guess.
> 
> Yes it could, but i dont even want to thi nk about all the issues of
> doing such an interface. It is basically an microkernelish approach.
> I prefer monolithic simplicity.

It's not complex at all.  Pass a null-terminated pathname to the server and
keep running.  The server will asynchronously read your pages for you.

That's assuming executable+unreadable libraries and binaries actually need
to be handled.  If not: no server needed.

> e.g. i am pretty sure your user space implementation would be far
> more complicated than a nicely streamlined kernel implementation. 
> And I am really not a friend of unnecessary complexity. In the end
> complexity hurts you, no matter if it is in ring 3 or ring 0.

There is no complexity here.

--
To unsubscribe, send a message with 'unsubscribe linux-mm' in
the body to majordomo@kvack.org.  For more info on Linux MM,
see: http://www.linux-mm.org/ .
Don't email: <a href=mailto:"dont@kvack.org"> email@kvack.org </a>

  reply	other threads:[~2008-03-18 17:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-03-18  1:09 [PATCH prototype] [0/8] Predictive bitmaps for ELF executables Andi Kleen
2008-03-18  1:09 ` [PATCH prototype] [1/8] Give ELF shdr types a name Andi Kleen
2008-03-18  1:09 ` [PATCH prototype] [2/8] Add support to override mmap exec write protection with O_FORCEWRITE Andi Kleen
2008-03-18  1:09 ` [PATCH prototype] [3/8] Make readahead max pinned value a sysctl Andi Kleen
2008-03-18  1:09 ` [PATCH prototype] [4/8] Add readahead function to read-ahead based on a bitmap Andi Kleen
2008-03-18  1:09 ` [PATCH prototype] [5/8] Add ELF constants for pbitmaps Andi Kleen
2008-03-18  1:09 ` [PATCH prototype] [6/8] Core predictive bitmap engine Andi Kleen
2008-03-18  1:09 ` [PATCH prototype] [7/8] Add the sysctls to control pbitmaps Andi Kleen
2008-03-18  1:09 ` [PATCH prototype] [8/8] Add mmap_full_slurp support Andi Kleen
2008-03-18  7:36 ` [PATCH prototype] [0/8] Predictive bitmaps for ELF executables Andrew Morton
2008-03-18 14:18   ` Andi Kleen
2008-03-18 16:57     ` Andrew Morton
2008-03-18 17:20       ` Andi Kleen
2008-03-18 17:44         ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2008-03-19  8:32           ` Andi Kleen
2008-03-19  9:04             ` Andrew Morton
2008-03-19 22:45               ` Ulrich Drepper
2008-03-19 23:12                 ` Andrew Morton
2008-03-20  0:09                   ` David Miller, Andrew Morton
2008-03-20  9:00                 ` Andi Kleen
2008-03-21 17:15                   ` Ulrich Drepper
2008-03-21 17:26                     ` Andi Kleen
2008-03-22  4:36                       ` Ulrich Drepper
2008-03-22  7:17                         ` Andi Kleen
2008-03-22  7:24                           ` Nicholas Miell
2008-03-22  9:10                             ` Andi Kleen
2008-03-22 10:16                               ` Nicholas Miell
2008-03-22 14:29                                 ` Andi Kleen
2008-03-23 13:25                                   ` Pavel Machek
2008-03-23 17:08                                     ` Andi Kleen
2008-03-24 16:24                                       ` Pavel Machek
2008-03-24  4:20                               ` Ulrich Drepper
2008-03-24  5:16                                 ` Nicholas Miell
2008-03-24  5:26                                   ` Andi Kleen
2008-03-24 19:42                                   ` Ulrich Drepper
2008-03-24 21:47                                     ` Nicholas Miell
2008-03-25  7:54                                     ` Andi Kleen
2008-03-26 18:15                                       ` Ulrich Drepper
2008-03-26 18:54                                         ` Andi Kleen
2008-03-22  4:38                       ` Ulrich Drepper
2008-03-20  0:15               ` Diego Calleja

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=20080318104437.966c10ec.akpm@linux-foundation.org \
    --to=akpm@linux-foundation.org \
    --cc=andi@firstfloor.org \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-mm@kvack.org \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).