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From: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	shaggy@austin.ibm.com, axboe@kernel.dk, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, Clark Williams <williams@redhat.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>
Subject: Re: [patch 2/2]: introduce fast_gup
Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 05:14:14 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080422031414.GA21993@wotan.suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.00.0804171127310.2879@woody.linux-foundation.org>

On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 11:28:45AM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> 
> 
> On Thu, 17 Apr 2008, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > 
> > D'0h - clearly not my day today...
> 
> Ok, I'm acking this one ;)
> 
> And yes, it would be nice if the gup patches would go in early, since I 
> wouldn't be entirely surprised if other architectures didn't have some 
> other subtle issues here. We've never accessed the page tables without 
> locking before, so we've only had races with hardware, never software.

Well I'd love them to go in 2.6.26. Andrew will be sending you some
precursor patches soon, and then I can rediff the x86 fast_gup.

We actually do access the page tables without the traditional linux vm
locking in architectures like powerpc that do software pagetable walks.
That's why their pagetables are RCUed for example.

So the concept is actually more foreign to x86 than it is to some others.

BTW. we do have powerpc patches for fast_gup. The "problem" with that
is that it requires my speculative page references from the lockless
pagecache patches (basically fast_gup for powerpc is exactly like
lockless pagecache but substitute the pagecache radix tree for the
page tables). But that might have to wait for 2.6.27. At least we'll
have the x86 fast_gup.

But the upshot is that I now have "real world" benchmark results to
justify adding the complexity of speculative references. After that,
adding lockless pagecache is more or less a noop ;) Everything's
falling into place, mwa ha ha.

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  reply	other threads:[~2008-04-22  3:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-03-28  2:54 [patch 0/2]: lockless get_user_pages patchset Nick Piggin
2008-03-28  2:55 ` [patch 1/2]: x86: implement pte_special Nick Piggin
2008-03-28  3:23   ` David Miller, Nick Piggin
2008-03-28  3:31     ` Nick Piggin
2008-03-28  3:44       ` David Miller, Nick Piggin
2008-03-28  4:04         ` Nick Piggin
2008-03-28  4:09           ` David Miller, Nick Piggin
2008-03-28  4:15             ` Nick Piggin
2008-03-28  4:16               ` David Miller, Nick Piggin
2008-03-28  4:19                 ` Nick Piggin
2008-03-28  4:17               ` Nick Piggin
2008-03-28  3:00 ` [patch 2/2]: introduce fast_gup Nick Piggin
2008-03-28 10:01   ` Jens Axboe
2008-04-17 15:03   ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-04-17 15:25     ` Linus Torvalds
2008-04-17 16:12       ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-04-17 16:18         ` Linus Torvalds
2008-04-17 16:35           ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-04-17 16:40             ` Linus Torvalds
2008-04-17 17:23               ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-04-17 18:28                 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-04-22  3:14                   ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2008-04-18  6:31                 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2008-04-18 14:40                   ` Linus Torvalds
2008-04-18  9:58         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-04-21 12:00       ` Avi Kivity
2008-04-21 12:30         ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-04-21 13:26           ` Avi Kivity
2008-04-21 14:35             ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-04-22  3:23               ` Nick Piggin
2008-04-22  7:19                 ` Avi Kivity
2008-04-22  8:07                 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-04-22  9:42   ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-04-22  9:46     ` Nick Piggin
2008-05-14 18:33       ` Dave Kleikamp
2008-05-15  1:13         ` Nick Piggin

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