From: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@qumranet.com>
To: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
clameter@sgi.com, steiner@sgi.com, holt@sgi.com, npiggin@suse.de,
a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl, kvm-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
kanojsarcar@yahoo.com, rdreier@cisco.com,
swise@opengridcomputing.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
avi@qumranet.com, linux-mm@kvack.org,
general@lists.openfabrics.org, hugh@veritas.com,
rusty@rustcorp.com.au, aliguori@us.ibm.com, chrisw@redhat.com,
marcelo@kvack.org, dada1@cosmosbay.com, paulmck@us.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 08 of 11] anon-vma-rwsem
Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 01:45:21 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080507234521.GN8276@duo.random> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1210202918.1421.20.camel@pasglop>
On Thu, May 08, 2008 at 09:28:38AM +1000, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
>
> On Thu, 2008-05-08 at 00:44 +0200, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
> >
> > Please note, we can't allow a thread to be in the middle of
> > zap_page_range while mmu_notifier_register runs.
>
> You said yourself that mmu_notifier_register can be as slow as you
> want ... what about you use stop_machine for it ? I'm not even joking
> here :-)
We can put a cap of time + a cap of vmas. It's not important if it
fails, the only useful case we know it, and it won't be slow at
all. The failure can happen because the cap of time or the cap of vmas
or the cap vmas triggers or there's a vmalloc shortage. We handle the
failure in userland of course. There are zillon of allocations needed
anyway, any one of them can fail, so this isn't a new fail path, is
the same fail path that always existed before mmu_notifiers existed.
I can't possibly see how adding a new global wide lock that forces all
truncate to be serialized against each other, practically eliminating
the need of the i_mmap_lock, could be superior to an approach that
doesn't cause the overhead to the VM at all, and only require kvm to
pay for an additional cost when it startup.
Furthermore the only reason I had to implement mm_lock was to fix the
invalidate_range_start/end model, if we go with only invalidate_page
and invalidate_pages called inside the PT lock and we use the PT lock
to serialize, we don't need a mm_lock anymore and no new lock from the
VM either. I tried to push for that, but everyone else wanted
invalidate_range_start/end. I only did the only possible thing to do:
to make invalidate_range_start safe to make everyone happy without
slowing down the VM.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-05-07 23:45 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 106+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-05-07 14:35 [PATCH 00 of 11] mmu notifier #v16 Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-07 14:35 ` [PATCH 01 of 11] mmu-notifier-core Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-07 17:35 ` Rik van Riel
2008-05-07 20:02 ` Andrew Morton
2008-05-07 20:05 ` Andrew Morton
2008-05-07 20:30 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-07 21:58 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-07 22:11 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-07 22:27 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-07 22:31 ` [ofa-general] " Roland Dreier
2008-05-07 22:39 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-07 23:03 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-07 22:37 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-07 23:38 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-07 23:00 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-07 14:35 ` [PATCH 02 of 11] get_task_mm Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-07 15:59 ` Robin Holt
2008-05-07 16:20 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-07 14:35 ` [PATCH 03 of 11] invalidate_page outside PT lock Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-07 17:39 ` Rik van Riel
2008-05-07 17:57 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-07 14:35 ` [PATCH 04 of 11] free-pgtables Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-07 17:41 ` Rik van Riel
2008-05-07 14:35 ` [PATCH 05 of 11] unmap vmas tlb flushing Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-07 17:46 ` Rik van Riel
2008-05-07 14:35 ` [PATCH 06 of 11] rwsem contended Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-07 14:35 ` [PATCH 07 of 11] i_mmap_rwsem Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-07 14:35 ` [PATCH 08 of 11] anon-vma-rwsem Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-07 20:56 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-07 21:26 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-07 21:36 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-07 22:22 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-07 22:31 ` Andrew Morton
2008-05-07 22:44 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-07 22:59 ` Andrew Morton
2008-05-07 23:19 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-07 23:39 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-05-08 0:03 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-08 0:52 ` Robin Holt
2008-05-08 0:56 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-05-08 1:07 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-08 1:39 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-08 1:52 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-08 1:57 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-08 2:24 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-08 2:32 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-07 23:39 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-08 1:02 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-08 1:12 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-05-08 1:32 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-08 2:56 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-08 3:10 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-05-08 3:41 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-08 4:14 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-08 5:20 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-08 5:27 ` Pekka Enberg
2008-05-08 5:30 ` Pekka Enberg
2008-05-08 5:49 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-08 15:03 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-08 16:11 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-08 22:01 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-09 18:37 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-05-09 18:55 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-09 19:04 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-05-08 1:26 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-07 23:28 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-05-07 23:45 ` Andrea Arcangeli [this message]
2008-05-08 1:34 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-13 12:14 ` Nick Piggin
2008-05-14 5:43 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-05-14 6:06 ` Nick Piggin
2008-05-14 13:15 ` Jack Steiner
2008-05-07 22:44 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-07 22:58 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-07 23:02 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-07 23:09 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-08 0:38 ` Robin Holt
2008-05-08 0:55 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-13 12:06 ` Nick Piggin
2008-05-13 15:32 ` Robin Holt
2008-05-14 4:11 ` Nick Piggin
2008-05-14 11:26 ` Robin Holt
2008-05-14 15:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-14 16:22 ` Robin Holt
2008-05-14 16:56 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-14 17:57 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-05-14 18:27 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-17 1:38 ` mm notifier: Notifications when pages are unmapped Christoph Lameter
2008-05-15 7:57 ` [PATCH 08 of 11] anon-vma-rwsem Nick Piggin
2008-05-15 11:01 ` Robin Holt
2008-05-15 11:12 ` Avi Kivity
2008-05-15 17:33 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-05-15 23:52 ` Nick Piggin
2008-05-16 11:23 ` Robin Holt
2008-05-16 11:50 ` Robin Holt
2008-05-20 5:31 ` Nick Piggin
2008-05-20 10:01 ` Robin Holt
2008-05-20 10:50 ` Nick Piggin
2008-05-20 11:05 ` Robin Holt
2008-05-20 11:14 ` Nick Piggin
2008-05-20 11:26 ` Robin Holt
2008-05-07 22:42 ` Jack Steiner
2008-05-07 14:35 ` [PATCH 09 of 11] mm_lock-rwsem Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-07 14:36 ` [PATCH 10 of 11] export zap_page_range for XPMEM Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-07 14:36 ` [PATCH 11 of 11] mmap sems Andrea Arcangeli
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-05-02 15:05 [PATCH 00 of 11] mmu notifier #v15 Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-02 15:05 ` [PATCH 08 of 11] anon-vma-rwsem Andrea Arcangeli
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