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From: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@qumranet.com>
To: Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	steiner@sgi.com, holt@sgi.com, npiggin@suse.de,
	a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl, kvm-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
	kanojsarcar@yahoo.com, rdreier@cisco.com,
	swise@opengridcomputing.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	avi@qumranet.com, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	general@lists.openfabrics.org, hugh@veritas.com,
	rusty@rustcorp.com.au, aliguori@us.ibm.com, chrisw@redhat.com,
	marcelo@kvack.org, dada1@cosmosbay.com, paulmck@us.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 08 of 11] anon-vma-rwsem
Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 05:41:33 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080508034133.GY8276@duo.random> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0805072009230.15543@schroedinger.engr.sgi.com>

On Wed, May 07, 2008 at 08:10:33PM -0700, Christoph Lameter wrote:
> On Thu, 8 May 2008, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
> 
> > to the sort function to break the loop. After that we remove the 512
> > vma cap and mm_lock is free to run as long as it wants like
> > /dev/urandom, nobody can care less how long it will run before
> > returning as long as it reacts to signals.
> 
> Look Linus has told you what to do. Why not simply do it?

When it looked like we could use vm_flags to remove sort, that looked
an ok optimization, no problem with optimizations, I'm all for
optimizations if they cost nothing to the VM fast paths and VM footprint.

But removing sort isn't worth it if it takes away ram from the VM even
when global_mm_lock will never be called.

sort is like /dev/urandom so after sort is fixed to handle signals
(and I expect Matt will help with this) we'll remove the 512 vmas cap.
In the meantime we can live with the 512 vmas cap that guarantees sort
won't take more than a few dozen usec. Removing sort() is the only
thing that the anon vma bitflag can achieve and it's clearly not worth
it and it would go in the wrong direction (fixing sort to handle
signals is clearly the right direction, if sort is a concern at all).

Adding the global lock around global_mm_lock to avoid one
global_mm_lock to collide against another global_mm_lock is sure ok
with me, if that's still wanted now that it's clear removing sort
isn't worth it, I'm neutral on this.

Christoph please go ahead and add the bitflag to anon-vma yourself if
you want. If something isn't technically right I don't do it no matter
who asks it.

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Thread overview: 106+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-05-07 14:35 [PATCH 00 of 11] mmu notifier #v16 Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-07 14:35 ` [PATCH 01 of 11] mmu-notifier-core Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-07 17:35   ` Rik van Riel
2008-05-07 20:02   ` Andrew Morton
2008-05-07 20:05   ` Andrew Morton
2008-05-07 20:30     ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-07 21:58       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-07 22:11         ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-07 22:27           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-07 22:31             ` [ofa-general] " Roland Dreier
2008-05-07 22:39               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-07 23:03                 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-07 22:37             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-07 23:38               ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-07 23:00             ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-07 14:35 ` [PATCH 02 of 11] get_task_mm Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-07 15:59   ` Robin Holt
2008-05-07 16:20     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-07 14:35 ` [PATCH 03 of 11] invalidate_page outside PT lock Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-07 17:39   ` Rik van Riel
2008-05-07 17:57     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-07 14:35 ` [PATCH 04 of 11] free-pgtables Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-07 17:41   ` Rik van Riel
2008-05-07 14:35 ` [PATCH 05 of 11] unmap vmas tlb flushing Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-07 17:46   ` Rik van Riel
2008-05-07 14:35 ` [PATCH 06 of 11] rwsem contended Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-07 14:35 ` [PATCH 07 of 11] i_mmap_rwsem Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-07 14:35 ` [PATCH 08 of 11] anon-vma-rwsem Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-07 20:56   ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-07 21:26     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-07 21:36       ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-07 22:22         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-07 22:31           ` Andrew Morton
2008-05-07 22:44             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-07 22:59               ` Andrew Morton
2008-05-07 23:19                 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-07 23:39                   ` Christoph Lameter
2008-05-08  0:03                     ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-08  0:52                       ` Robin Holt
2008-05-08  0:56                       ` Christoph Lameter
2008-05-08  1:07                         ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-08  1:39                         ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-08  1:52                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-08  1:57                             ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-08  2:24                               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-08  2:32                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-07 23:39                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-08  1:02                   ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-08  1:12                     ` Christoph Lameter
2008-05-08  1:32                       ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-08  2:56                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-08  3:10                         ` Christoph Lameter
2008-05-08  3:41                           ` Andrea Arcangeli [this message]
2008-05-08  4:14                             ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-08  5:20                               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-08  5:27                                 ` Pekka Enberg
2008-05-08  5:30                                   ` Pekka Enberg
2008-05-08  5:49                                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-08 15:03                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-08 16:11                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-08 22:01                                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-09 18:37                                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-05-09 18:55                                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-09 19:04                                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-05-08  1:26                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-07 23:28               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-05-07 23:45                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-08  1:34                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-13 12:14                     ` Nick Piggin
2008-05-14  5:43                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-05-14  6:06                         ` Nick Piggin
2008-05-14 13:15                         ` Jack Steiner
2008-05-07 22:44           ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-07 22:58             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-07 23:02               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-07 23:09               ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-08  0:38         ` Robin Holt
2008-05-08  0:55           ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-13 12:06           ` Nick Piggin
2008-05-13 15:32             ` Robin Holt
2008-05-14  4:11               ` Nick Piggin
2008-05-14 11:26                 ` Robin Holt
2008-05-14 15:18                   ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-14 16:22                     ` Robin Holt
2008-05-14 16:56                       ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-14 17:57                     ` Christoph Lameter
2008-05-14 18:27                       ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-17  1:38                         ` mm notifier: Notifications when pages are unmapped Christoph Lameter
2008-05-15  7:57                   ` [PATCH 08 of 11] anon-vma-rwsem Nick Piggin
2008-05-15 11:01                     ` Robin Holt
2008-05-15 11:12                       ` Avi Kivity
2008-05-15 17:33                     ` Christoph Lameter
2008-05-15 23:52                       ` Nick Piggin
2008-05-16 11:23                         ` Robin Holt
2008-05-16 11:50                           ` Robin Holt
2008-05-20  5:31                             ` Nick Piggin
2008-05-20 10:01                               ` Robin Holt
2008-05-20 10:50                                 ` Nick Piggin
2008-05-20 11:05                                   ` Robin Holt
2008-05-20 11:14                                     ` Nick Piggin
2008-05-20 11:26                                       ` Robin Holt
2008-05-07 22:42       ` Jack Steiner
2008-05-07 14:35 ` [PATCH 09 of 11] mm_lock-rwsem Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-07 14:36 ` [PATCH 10 of 11] export zap_page_range for XPMEM Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-07 14:36 ` [PATCH 11 of 11] mmap sems Andrea Arcangeli
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-05-02 15:05 [PATCH 00 of 11] mmu notifier #v15 Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-02 15:05 ` [PATCH 08 of 11] anon-vma-rwsem Andrea Arcangeli

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