From: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Hugh Dickins <hugh@veritas.com>,
linux-arch@vger.kernel.org,
Linux Memory Management List <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
Paul McKenney <paulmck@us.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [patch 2/2] fix SMP data race in pagetable setup vs walking
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 02:34:17 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080514003417.GA24516@wotan.suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0805130844000.3019@woody.linux-foundation.org>
On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 08:45:51AM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
>
>
> On Tue, 13 May 2008, Nick Piggin wrote:
> >
> > No, *everyone* (except arch-only non-alpha developer) needs to know about
> > it.
>
> Umm. In architecture files, by definition, only alpha needs to know about
> it.
>
> That was very much an architecture-specific file: we're talking about
> asm-x86/pgtable_32.h here.
>
> > x86 especially is a reference and often is a proving ground for code that
> > becomes generic, so I'd say even x86 developers should need to know about
> > it too.
>
> And in reference files that are architecture-specific, there is absolutely
> *no point* in ever having read_barrier_depends(). Because even if another
> architecture copies it, it's better off without it.
Uh, I don't follow your logic. The "reference" Linux memory model
requires it, so I don't see how you can justify saying it is wrong
just because a *specific* architecture doesn't need it.
I think that regardless of whether it is required or not, it is good
to have in order to prompt the reader to think about memory ordering.
I also think it is a good idea to use smp_rmb/smp_wmb in x86 only
code even though that is a noop too.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-05-14 0:34 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-05-05 11:20 [patch 1/2] read_barrier_depends fixlets Nick Piggin
2008-05-05 12:12 ` [patch 2/2] fix SMP data race in pagetable setup vs walking Nick Piggin
2008-05-05 14:35 ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-05-06 9:38 ` Nick Piggin
2008-05-06 13:32 ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-05-13 7:55 ` Nick Piggin
2008-05-13 13:26 ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-05-05 15:32 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-05 16:37 ` Hugh Dickins
2008-05-06 9:51 ` Nick Piggin
2008-05-06 14:53 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-06 19:11 ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-05-14 4:27 ` Nick Piggin
2008-05-13 8:01 ` Nick Piggin
2008-05-13 15:45 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-14 0:34 ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2008-05-14 0:55 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-14 1:18 ` Nick Piggin
2008-05-14 4:35 ` [patch 1/2] read_barrier_depends arch fixlets Nick Piggin
2008-05-14 4:37 ` [patch 2/2] fix SMP data race in pagetable setup vs walking Nick Piggin
2008-05-14 13:26 ` [patch 1/2] read_barrier_depends arch fixlets Paul E. McKenney
2008-05-05 16:57 ` [patch 2/2] fix SMP data race in pagetable setup vs walking Hugh Dickins
2008-05-06 9:52 ` Nick Piggin
2008-05-06 7:08 ` David Miller, Nick Piggin
2008-05-06 9:56 ` Nick Piggin
2008-05-05 14:27 ` [patch 1/2] read_barrier_depends fixlets Paul E. McKenney
2008-05-06 9:01 ` Nick Piggin
2008-05-06 14:06 ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-05-06 15:29 ` David Howells
2008-05-06 19:09 ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-05-13 8:05 ` Nick Piggin
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