From: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>
To: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
Cc: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>,
Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@qumranet.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
clameter@sgi.com, steiner@sgi.com, holt@sgi.com,
a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl, kvm-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
kanojsarcar@yahoo.com, rdreier@cisco.com,
swise@opengridcomputing.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
avi@qumranet.com, linux-mm@kvack.org,
general@lists.openfabrics.org, hugh@veritas.com,
rusty@rustcorp.com.au, aliguori@us.ibm.com, chrisw@redhat.com,
marcelo@kvack.org, dada1@cosmosbay.com, paulmck@us.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 08 of 11] anon-vma-rwsem
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 08:06:11 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080514060610.GB30448@wotan.suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1210743839.8297.55.camel@pasglop>
On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 10:43:59PM -0700, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
>
> On Tue, 2008-05-13 at 22:14 +1000, Nick Piggin wrote:
> > ea.
> >
> > I don't see why you're bending over so far backwards to accommodate
> > this GRU thing that we don't even have numbers for and could actually
> > potentially be batched up in other ways (eg. using mmu_gather or
> > mmu_gather-like idea).
>
> I agree, we're better off generalizing the mmu_gather batching
> instead...
Well, the first thing would be just to get rid of the whole start/end
idea, which completely departs from the standard Linux system of
clearing ptes, then flushing TLBs, then freeing memory.
The onus would then be on GRU to come up with some numbers to justify
batching, and a patch which works nicely with the rest of the Linux
mm. And yes, mmu-gather is *the* obvious first choice of places to
look if one wanted batching hooks.
> I had some never-finished patches to use the mmu_gather for pretty much
> everything except single page faults, tho various subtle differences
> between archs and lack of time caused me to let them take the dust and
> not finish them...
>
> I can try to dig some of that out when I'm back from my current travel,
> though it's probably worth re-doing from scratch now.
I always liked the idea as you know. But I don't think that should
be mixed in with the first iteration of the mmu notifiers patch
anyway. GRU actually can work without batching, but there is simply
some (unquantified to me) penalty for not batching it. I think it
is far better to first put in a clean and simple and working functionality
first. The idea that we have to unload some monster be-all-and-end-all
solution onto mainline in a single go seems counter productive to me.
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Thread overview: 106+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-05-07 14:35 [PATCH 00 of 11] mmu notifier #v16 Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-07 14:35 ` [PATCH 01 of 11] mmu-notifier-core Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-07 17:35 ` Rik van Riel
2008-05-07 20:02 ` Andrew Morton
2008-05-07 20:05 ` Andrew Morton
2008-05-07 20:30 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-07 21:58 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-07 22:11 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-07 22:27 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-07 22:31 ` [ofa-general] " Roland Dreier
2008-05-07 22:39 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-07 23:03 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-07 22:37 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-07 23:38 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-07 23:00 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-07 14:35 ` [PATCH 02 of 11] get_task_mm Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-07 15:59 ` Robin Holt
2008-05-07 16:20 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-07 14:35 ` [PATCH 03 of 11] invalidate_page outside PT lock Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-07 17:39 ` Rik van Riel
2008-05-07 17:57 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-07 14:35 ` [PATCH 04 of 11] free-pgtables Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-07 17:41 ` Rik van Riel
2008-05-07 14:35 ` [PATCH 05 of 11] unmap vmas tlb flushing Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-07 17:46 ` Rik van Riel
2008-05-07 14:35 ` [PATCH 06 of 11] rwsem contended Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-07 14:35 ` [PATCH 07 of 11] i_mmap_rwsem Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-07 14:35 ` [PATCH 08 of 11] anon-vma-rwsem Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-07 20:56 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-07 21:26 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-07 21:36 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-07 22:22 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-07 22:31 ` Andrew Morton
2008-05-07 22:44 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-07 22:59 ` Andrew Morton
2008-05-07 23:19 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-07 23:39 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-05-08 0:03 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-08 0:52 ` Robin Holt
2008-05-08 0:56 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-05-08 1:07 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-08 1:39 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-08 1:52 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-08 1:57 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-08 2:24 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-08 2:32 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-07 23:39 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-08 1:02 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-08 1:12 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-05-08 1:32 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-08 2:56 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-08 3:10 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-05-08 3:41 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-08 4:14 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-08 5:20 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-08 5:27 ` Pekka Enberg
2008-05-08 5:30 ` Pekka Enberg
2008-05-08 5:49 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-08 15:03 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-08 16:11 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-08 22:01 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-09 18:37 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-05-09 18:55 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-09 19:04 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-05-08 1:26 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-07 23:28 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-05-07 23:45 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-08 1:34 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-13 12:14 ` Nick Piggin
2008-05-14 5:43 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-05-14 6:06 ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2008-05-14 13:15 ` Jack Steiner
2008-05-07 22:44 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-07 22:58 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-07 23:02 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-07 23:09 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-08 0:38 ` Robin Holt
2008-05-08 0:55 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-13 12:06 ` Nick Piggin
2008-05-13 15:32 ` Robin Holt
2008-05-14 4:11 ` Nick Piggin
2008-05-14 11:26 ` Robin Holt
2008-05-14 15:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-14 16:22 ` Robin Holt
2008-05-14 16:56 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-14 17:57 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-05-14 18:27 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-17 1:38 ` mm notifier: Notifications when pages are unmapped Christoph Lameter
2008-05-15 7:57 ` [PATCH 08 of 11] anon-vma-rwsem Nick Piggin
2008-05-15 11:01 ` Robin Holt
2008-05-15 11:12 ` Avi Kivity
2008-05-15 17:33 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-05-15 23:52 ` Nick Piggin
2008-05-16 11:23 ` Robin Holt
2008-05-16 11:50 ` Robin Holt
2008-05-20 5:31 ` Nick Piggin
2008-05-20 10:01 ` Robin Holt
2008-05-20 10:50 ` Nick Piggin
2008-05-20 11:05 ` Robin Holt
2008-05-20 11:14 ` Nick Piggin
2008-05-20 11:26 ` Robin Holt
2008-05-07 22:42 ` Jack Steiner
2008-05-07 14:35 ` [PATCH 09 of 11] mm_lock-rwsem Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-07 14:36 ` [PATCH 10 of 11] export zap_page_range for XPMEM Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-07 14:36 ` [PATCH 11 of 11] mmap sems Andrea Arcangeli
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-05-02 15:05 [PATCH 00 of 11] mmu notifier #v15 Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-02 15:05 ` [PATCH 08 of 11] anon-vma-rwsem Andrea Arcangeli
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