From: Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Paul Menage <menage@google.com>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, Sudhir Kumar <skumar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
YAMAMOTO Takashi <yamamoto@valinux.co.jp>,
lizf@cn.fujitsu.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Pavel Emelianov <xemul@openvz.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
Subject: Re: [-mm][PATCH 4/4] Add memrlimit controller accounting and control (v4)
Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 13:55:53 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080515082553.GK31115@balbir.in.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6599ad830805150039u76c9002cg6c873fd71e687a69@mail.gmail.com>
* Paul Menage <menage@google.com> [2008-05-15 00:39:45]:
> On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 12:03 AM, Balbir Singh
> <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
> >
> > I want to focus on this conclusion/assertion, since it takes care of
> > most of the locking related discussion above, unless I missed
> > something.
> >
> > My concern with using mmap_sem, is that
> >
> > 1. It's highly contended (every page fault, vma change, etc)
>
> But the only *new* cases of taking the mmap_sem that this would
> introduce would be:
>
> - on a failed vm limit charge
Why a failed charge? Aren't we talking of moving all charge/uncharge
under mmap_sem?
> - when a task exit/exec causes an mm ownership change
Yes, in the mm_owner_changed callbacks
> - when a task moves between two cgroups in the memrlimit hierarchy.
>
Yes, this would nest cgroup_mutex and mmap_sem. Not sure if that would
be a bad side-effect.
> All of these should be rare events, so I don't think the additional
> contention is a worry.
We do make several of all charge calls under the mmap_sem, but not
all of them. So the additional contention might not be all that bad.
>
> > 2. It's going to make the locking hierarchy deeper and complex
>
> Yes, potentially. But if the upside of that is that we eliminate a
> lock/unlock on a shared lock on every mmap/munmap call, it might well
> be worth it.
>
> > 3. It's not appropriate to call all the accounting callbacks with
> > the mmap_sem() held, since the undo operations _can get_ complicated
> > at the caller.
> >
>
> Can you give an example?
Some paths of the uncharge are not under mmap_sem. Undoing the
operation there seemed complex.
>
> > I would prefer introducing a new lock, so that other subsystems are
> > not affected.
> >
>
> For getting the first cut of the memrlimit controller working this may
> well make sense. But it would be nice to avoid it longer-term.
OK, so here's what I am going to try and do
Refactor the code to try and use mmap_sem and see what I come up
with. Basically use mmap_sem for all charge/uncharge operations as
well use mmap_sem in read_mode in the move_task() and
mm_owner_changed() callbacks. That should take care of the race
conditions discussed, unless I missed something.
Try and instrument insert_vm_struct() for charge/uncharge
--
Warm Regards,
Balbir Singh
Linux Technology Center
IBM, ISTL
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-05-15 8:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-05-14 13:09 [-mm][PATCH 0/4] Add memrlimit controller (v4) Balbir Singh
2008-05-14 13:09 ` [-mm][PATCH 1/4] Add memrlimit controller documentation (v4) Balbir Singh
2008-05-15 1:20 ` Li Zefan
2008-05-15 18:22 ` Avi Kivity
2008-05-15 18:39 ` Balbir Singh
2008-05-14 13:09 ` [-mm][PATCH 2/4] Setup the memrlimit controller (v4) Balbir Singh
2008-05-14 13:29 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2008-05-14 13:09 ` [-mm][PATCH 3/4] cgroup mm owner callback changes to add task info (v4) Balbir Singh
2008-05-14 13:09 ` [-mm][PATCH 4/4] Add memrlimit controller accounting and control (v4) Balbir Singh
2008-05-14 13:25 ` Balbir Singh
2008-05-15 2:25 ` Paul Menage
2008-05-15 6:17 ` Balbir Singh
2008-05-15 6:55 ` Paul Menage
2008-05-15 7:03 ` Balbir Singh
2008-05-15 7:39 ` Paul Menage
2008-05-15 8:25 ` Balbir Singh [this message]
2008-05-15 15:28 ` Paul Menage
2008-05-15 17:01 ` Balbir Singh
2008-05-17 20:15 ` Balbir Singh
2008-05-17 20:17 ` Balbir Singh
2008-05-14 13:32 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2008-05-14 19:39 ` Balbir Singh
2008-09-18 20:54 ` Andrew Morton
2008-09-18 23:55 ` Balbir Singh
2008-09-19 6:38 ` Balbir Singh
2008-09-19 20:14 ` Andrew Morton
2008-09-19 21:28 ` Balbir Singh
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