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From: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>
To: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
Cc: Dave Hansen <dave@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, Nishanth Aravamudan <nacc@us.ibm.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, kniht@us.ibm.com, abh@cray.com,
	joachim.deguara@amd.com
Subject: Re: [patch 14/21] x86: add hugepagesz option on 64-bit
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 03:10:16 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080604011016.GC30863@wotan.suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080603205752.GK20824@one.firstfloor.org>

On Tue, Jun 03, 2008 at 10:57:52PM +0200, Andi Kleen wrote:
> > The downside of something like this is that you have yet another data
> > structure to manage.  Andi, do you think something like this would be
> > workable?
> 
> The reason I don't like your proposal is that it makes only sense
> with a lot of hugepage sizes being active at the same time. But the
> API (one mount per size) doesn't really scale to that anyways.
> It should support two (as on x86), three if you stretch it, but
> anything beyond would be difficult.
> If you really wanted to support a zillion sizes you would at least
> first need a different flexible interface that completely hides page
> sizes.
> Otherwise you would drive both sysadmins and programmers crazy and 
> overlong command lines would be the smallest of their problems
> With two or even three sizes only the whole thing is not needed and my original
> scheme works fine IMHO.
> 
> That is why I was also sceptical of the newly proposed sysfs interfaces. 
> For two or three numbers you don't need a sysfs interface.

I do think your proc enhancements are clever, and you're right that for
the current setup they are pretty workable. The reason I haven't submitted
them in this round is because they do cause libhugetlbfs failures...
maybe that's just because the regression suite does really dumb parsing,
and nothing important will break, but it is the only thing I have to go on
so I have to give it some credit ;)

With the sysfs API, we have a way to control the other hstates, so it
takes a little importance off the proc interface.

sysfs doesn't appear to give a huge improvement yet (although I still
think it is nicer), but I think the hugetlbfs guys want to have control
over which nodes things get allocated on etc. so I think proc really
was going to run out of steam at some point.

Anyway, my point is just that sysfs is the way forward, but I'm also not
against people tinkering with /proc if it isn't going to cause problems.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-06-04  1:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-06-03  9:59 [patch 00/21] hugetlb multi size, giant hugetlb support, etc npiggin
2008-06-03  9:59 ` [patch 01/21] hugetlb: factor out prep_new_huge_page npiggin
2008-06-03  9:59 ` [patch 02/21] hugetlb: modular state npiggin
2008-06-03 10:58   ` [patch 02/21] hugetlb: modular state (take 2) Nick Piggin
2008-06-03  9:59 ` [patch 03/21] hugetlb: multiple hstates npiggin
2008-06-03 10:00 ` [patch 04/21] hugetlbfs: per mount hstates npiggin
2008-06-03 10:00 ` [patch 05/21] hugetlb: new sysfs interface npiggin
2008-06-03 10:00 ` [patch 06/21] hugetlb: abstract numa round robin selection npiggin
2008-06-03 10:00 ` [patch 07/21] mm: introduce non panic alloc_bootmem npiggin
2008-06-03 10:00 ` [patch 08/21] mm: export prep_compound_page to mm npiggin
2008-06-03 10:00 ` [patch 09/21] hugetlb: support larger than MAX_ORDER npiggin
2008-06-03 10:00 ` [patch 10/21] hugetlb: support boot allocate different sizes npiggin
2008-06-03 10:00 ` [patch 11/21] hugetlb: printk cleanup npiggin
2008-06-03 10:00 ` [patch 12/21] hugetlb: introduce pud_huge npiggin
2008-06-03 10:00 ` [patch 13/21] x86: support GB hugepages on 64-bit npiggin
2008-06-03 10:00 ` [patch 14/21] x86: add hugepagesz option " npiggin
2008-06-03 17:48   ` Dave Hansen
2008-06-03 18:24     ` Andi Kleen
2008-06-03 18:59       ` Dave Hansen
2008-06-03 20:57         ` Andi Kleen
2008-06-03 21:27           ` Dave Hansen
2008-06-04  0:06             ` Andi Kleen
2008-06-04  1:04               ` Nick Piggin
2008-06-04 16:01                 ` Dave Hansen
2008-06-06 16:09                   ` Dave Hansen
2008-06-05 23:15               ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2008-06-06  0:29                 ` Andi Kleen
2008-06-04  1:10           ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2008-06-05 23:12             ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2008-06-05 23:23               ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2008-06-03 19:00       ` Dave Hansen
2008-06-03 10:00 ` [patch 15/21] hugetlb: override default huge page size npiggin
2008-06-03 10:00 ` [patch 16/21] hugetlb: allow arch overried hugepage allocation npiggin
2008-06-03 10:00 ` [patch 17/21] powerpc: function to allocate gigantic hugepages npiggin
2008-06-03 10:00 ` [patch 18/21] powerpc: scan device tree for gigantic pages npiggin
2008-06-03 10:00 ` [patch 19/21] powerpc: define support for 16G hugepages npiggin
2008-06-03 10:00 ` [patch 20/21] fs: check for statfs overflow npiggin
2008-06-03 10:00 ` [patch 21/21] powerpc: support multiple hugepage sizes npiggin
2008-06-03 10:29 ` [patch 1/1] x86: get_user_pages_lockless support 1GB hugepages Nick Piggin
2008-06-03 10:57 ` [patch 00/21] hugetlb multi size, giant hugetlb support, etc Nick Piggin
2008-06-06 17:12   ` Andy Whitcroft
2008-06-04  8:29 ` Andrew Morton
2008-06-04  9:35   ` Nick Piggin
2008-06-04  9:46     ` Andrew Morton
2008-06-04 11:04       ` Nick Piggin
2008-06-04 11:33       ` Nick Piggin
2008-06-04 11:57   ` Andi Kleen
2008-06-04 18:39     ` Andrew Morton
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-06-04 11:29 [patch 00/21] hugetlb patches resend npiggin
2008-06-04 11:29 ` [patch 14/21] x86: add hugepagesz option on 64-bit npiggin
2008-06-04 17:51   ` Randy Dunlap
2008-06-05  2:01     ` Nick Piggin

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