From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail138.messagelabs.com (mail138.messagelabs.com [216.82.249.35]) by kanga.kvack.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDAA86B00C2 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2009 03:03:48 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 09:02:43 +0100 From: Jens Axboe Subject: Re: [PATCH, RFC] Use WRITE_SYNC in __block_write_full_page() if WBC_SYNC_ALL Message-ID: <20090105080241.GX32491@kernel.dk> References: <20090104142303.98762f81.akpm@linux-foundation.org> <20090104224351.GF22958@mit.edu> <20090104151927.1f1603c6.akpm@linux-foundation.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090104151927.1f1603c6.akpm@linux-foundation.org> Sender: owner-linux-mm@kvack.org To: Andrew Morton Cc: Theodore Tso , linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, Arjan van de Ven List-ID: On Sun, Jan 04 2009, Andrew Morton wrote: > On Sun, 4 Jan 2009 17:43:51 -0500 Theodore Tso wrote: > > > On Sun, Jan 04, 2009 at 02:23:03PM -0800, Andrew Morton wrote: > > > > Following up with an e-mail thread started by Arjan two months ago, > > > > (subject: [PATCH] Give kjournald a IOPRIO_CLASS_RT io priority), I have > > > > a patch, just sent to linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, which fixes the jbd2 > > > > layer to submit journal writes via submit_bh() with WRITE_SYNC. > > > > Hopefully this might be enough of a priority boost so we don't have to > > > > force a higher I/O priority level via a buffer_head flag. However, > > > > while looking through the code paths, in ordered data mode, we end up > > > > flushing data pages via the page writeback paths on a per-inode basis, > > > > and I noticed that even though we are passing in > > > > wbc.sync_mode=WBC_SYNC_ALL, __block_write_full_page() is using > > > > submit_bh(WRITE, bh) instead of submit_bh(WRITE_SYNC). > > > > > > But this is all the wrong way to fix the problem, isn't it? > > > > > > The problem is that at one particular point, the current transaction > > > blocks callers behind the committing transaction's IO completion. > > > > > > Did anyone look at fixing that? ISTR concluding that a data copy and > > > shadow-bh arrangement might be needed. > > > > I haven't had time to really drill down into the jbd code yet, and > > yes, eventually we probably want to do this. > > We do. > > > Still, if we are > > submitting I/O which we are going to end up waiting on, we really > > should submit it with WRITE_SYNC, and this patch should optimize > > writes in other situations; for example, if we fsync() a file, we will > > also end up calling block_write_full_page(), and so supplying the > > WRITE_SYNC hint to the block layer would be a Good Thing. > > Is it? WRITE_SYNC means "unplug the queue after this bh/BIO". By setting > it against every bh, don't we risk the generation of more BIOs and > the loss of merging opportunities? But it also implies that the io scheduler will treat the IO as sync even if it is a write, which seems to be the very effect that Ted is looking for as well. Perhaps we should seperate it into two behavioural flags instead and make the unplugging explicit. -- Jens Axboe -- To unsubscribe, send a message with 'unsubscribe linux-mm' in the body to majordomo@kvack.org. For more info on Linux MM, see: http://www.linux-mm.org/ . Don't email: email@kvack.org