From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Peter Klotz <peter.klotz@aon.at>,
stable@kernel.org,
Linux Memory Management List <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
Roman Kononov <kernel@kononov.ftml.net>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, xfs@oss.sgi.com,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [patch] mm: fix lockless pagecache reordering bug (was Re: BUG: soft lockup - is this XFS problem?)
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 18:23:52 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090106022352.GY6959@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090106020550.GA819@wotan.suse.de>
On Tue, Jan 06, 2009 at 03:05:50AM +0100, Nick Piggin wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 05, 2009 at 01:57:27PM -0800, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > On Mon, Jan 05, 2009 at 12:39:14PM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, 5 Jan 2009, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > > >
> > > > My guess is that Nick believes that the value in *pslot cannot change
> > > > in such as way as to cause radix_tree_is_indirect_ptr()'s return value
> > > > to change within a given RCU grace period, and that Linus disagrees.
> > >
> > > Oh, it's entirely possible that there are some lifetime rules or others
> > > that make it impossible for things to go from "not indirect" ->
> > > "indirect". So if that was Nick's point, then I'm not "disagreeing" per
> > > se.
> > >
> > > What I'm disagreeing about is that Nick apparently thinks that this is all
> > > subtle code, and as a result we should add barriers in some very
> > > non-obvious places.
> > >
> > > While _I_ think that the problem isn't properly solved by barriers, but by
> > > just making the code less subtle. If the barrier only exists because of
> > > the reload issue, then the obvious solution - to me - is to just use what
> > > is already the proper accessor function that forces a nice reload. That
> > > way the compiler is forced to create code that does what the source
> > > clearly means it to do, regardless of any barriers at all.
> > >
> > > Barriers in general should be the _last_ thing added. And if they are
> > > added, they should be added as deeply in the call-chain as possible, so
> > > that we don't need to add them in multiple call-sites. Again, using the
> > > rcu_dereference() approach seems to solve that issue too - rather than add
> > > three barriers in three different places, we just add the proper
> > > dereference in _one_ place.
> >
> > I don't have any argument with this line of reasoning, and am myself a bit
> > puzzled as to why rcu_dereference() isn't the right tool for Nick's job.
> > Then again, I don't claim to fully understand what he is trying to do.
>
> OK, granted I do need the ACCESS_ONCE. It is loading a pointer who's target
> can be changed concurrently with the rcu algorithm. The rcu_derefernce
> thing kind of set me thinking down the wrong track, because the object of the
> pointer it loads is not RCU protected and doesn't need the memory barrier
> (on alpha).
>
> But... RCU radix tree is not only used for the pagecache, so it's probably not
> worth complicating things to seperate out those two cases. rcu_dereference
> might be the best fit.
Works for me!
> > > > Whatever the answer, I would argue for -at- -least- a comment explaining
> > > > why it is safe. I am not seeing the objection to rcu_dereference(), but
> > > > I must confess that it has been awhile since I have looked closely at
> > > > the radix_tree code. :-/
> > >
> > > And I'm actually suprised that gcc can generate the problematic code in
> > > the first place. I'd expect that a "atomic_add_unless()" would always be
> > > at LEAST a compiler barrier, even if it isn't necessarily a CPU memory
> > > barrier.
> > >
> > > But because we inline it, and because we allow gcc to see that it doesn't
> > > do anything if it gets just the right value from memory, I guess gcc ends
> > > up able to change the "for()" loop so that the first iteration can exit
> > > specially, and then for that case (and no other case) it can cache
> > > variables over the whole atomic_add_unless().
> > >
> > > Again, that's very fragile. The fact that Documentation/atomic_ops.txt
> > > says that the failure case doesn't contain any barriers is really _meant_
> > > to be about the architecture-specific CPU barriers, not so much about
> > > something as simple as a compiler re-ordering.
> > >
> > > So while I think that we should use rcu_dereference() (regardless of any
> > > other issues), I _also_ think that part of the problem really is the
> > > excessive subtlety in the whole code, and the (obviously very surprising)
> > > fact that gcc could end up caching an unrelated memory load across that
> > > whole atomic op.
> > >
> > > Maybe we should make atomics always imply a compiler barrier, even when
> > > they do not imply a memory barrier. The one exception would be the
> > > (special) case of "atomic_read()/atomic_set()", which don't really do any
> > > kind of complex operation at all, and where we really do want the compiler
> > > to be able to coalesce multiple atomic_reads() to a single one.
> > >
> > > In contrast, there's no sense in allowing the compiler to coalesce a
> > > "atomic_add_unless()" with anything else. Making it a compiler barrier
> > > (possibly by uninlining it, or just adding a barrier to it) would also
> > > have avoided the whole subtle case - which is always a good thing.
> >
> > That makes a lot of sense to me!
>
> It would have avoided one problem (the same one my patch did). But it
> doesn't solve the problem of the missing ACCESS_ONCE allowing the
> pointer to be reloaded from the slot pointer.
Agreed.
> Sticking an rcu_dereference in radix_tree_deref_slot seems to fix the
> assembly for me too, I grafted the changelog onto that. Linus probably
> you are using -Os?
>
> --
> Subject: mm lockless pagecache barrier fix
>
> An XFS workload showed up a bug in the lockless pagecache patch. Basically it
> would go into an "infinite" loop, although it would sometimes be able to break
> out of the loop! The reason is a missing compiler barrier in the "increment
> reference count unless it was zero" case of the lockless pagecache protocol in
> the gang lookup functions.
>
> This would cause the compiler to use a cached value of struct page pointer to
> retry the operation with, rather than reload it. So the page might have been
> removed from pagecache and freed (refcount==0) but the lookup would not correctly
> notice the page is no longer in pagecache, and keep attempting to increment the
> refcount and failing, until the page gets reallocated for something else. This
> isn't a data corruption because the condition will be detected if the page has
> been reallocated. However it can result in a lockup.
>
> Linus points out that ACCESS_ONCE is also required in that pointer load, even
> if it's absence is not causing a bug on our particular build. The most general
> way to solve this is just to put an rcu_dereference in radix_tree_deref_slot.
>
> Assembly of find_get_pages,
> before:
> .L220:
> movq (%rbx), %rax #* ivtmp.1162, tmp82
> movq (%rax), %rdi #, prephitmp.1149
> .L218:
> testb $1, %dil #, prephitmp.1149
> jne .L217 #,
> testq %rdi, %rdi # prephitmp.1149
> je .L203 #,
> cmpq $-1, %rdi #, prephitmp.1149
> je .L217 #,
> movl 8(%rdi), %esi # <variable>._count.counter, c
> testl %esi, %esi # c
> je .L218 #,
>
> after:
> .L212:
> movq (%rbx), %rax #* ivtmp.1109, tmp81
> movq (%rax), %rdi #, ret
> testb $1, %dil #, ret
> jne .L211 #,
> testq %rdi, %rdi # ret
> je .L197 #,
> cmpq $-1, %rdi #, ret
> je .L211 #,
> movl 8(%rdi), %esi # <variable>._count.counter, c
> testl %esi, %esi # c
> je .L212 #,
>
> (notice the obvious infinite loop in the first example, if page->count remains 0)
Reviewed-by: Paul E. McKenney <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
> Signed-off-by: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>
> ---
> include/linux/radix-tree.h | 2 +-
> mm/filemap.c | 23 ++++++++++++++++++++---
> 2 files changed, 21 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)
>
> Index: linux-2.6/include/linux/radix-tree.h
> ===================================================================
> --- linux-2.6.orig/include/linux/radix-tree.h
> +++ linux-2.6/include/linux/radix-tree.h
> @@ -136,7 +136,7 @@ do { \
> */
> static inline void *radix_tree_deref_slot(void **pslot)
> {
> - void *ret = *pslot;
> + void *ret = rcu_dereference(*pslot);
> if (unlikely(radix_tree_is_indirect_ptr(ret)))
> ret = RADIX_TREE_RETRY;
> return ret;
>
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2009-01-05 16:41 ` [patch] mm: fix lockless pagecache reordering bug (was Re: BUG: soft lockup - is this XFS problem?) Nick Piggin
2009-01-05 17:30 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-01-05 18:00 ` Nick Piggin
2009-01-05 18:44 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-01-05 19:39 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-01-06 17:17 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-01-05 20:12 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-01-05 20:39 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-01-05 21:57 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-01-06 2:05 ` Nick Piggin
2009-01-06 2:23 ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2009-01-06 2:29 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-01-06 8:38 ` Peter Klotz
2009-01-06 8:43 ` Nick Piggin
2009-01-06 16:16 ` Roman Kononov
2009-01-05 21:04 ` [patch] mm: fix lockless pagecache reordering bug (was Peter Zijlstra
2009-01-05 21:58 ` Paul E. McKenney
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