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From: Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Sudhir Kumar <skumar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	YAMAMOTO Takashi <yamamoto@valinux.co.jp>,
	Paul Menage <menage@google.com>,
	lizf@cn.fujitsu.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Pavel Emelianov <xemul@openvz.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 3/4] Memory controller soft limit organize cgroups
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 09:55:58 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090108042558.GC7294@balbir.in.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090108101148.96e688f4.kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>

* KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com> [2009-01-08 10:11:48]:

> On Thu, 08 Jan 2009 00:11:28 +0530
> Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
> 
> > From: Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
> > 
> > This patch introduces a RB-Tree for storing memory cgroups that are over their
> > soft limit. The overall goal is to
> > 
> > 1. Add a memory cgroup to the RB-Tree when the soft limit is exceeded.
> >    We are careful about updates, updates take place only after a particular
> >    time interval has passed
> > 2. We remove the node from the RB-Tree when the usage goes below the soft
> >    limit
> > 
> > The next set of patches will exploit the RB-Tree to get the group that is
> > over its soft limit by the largest amount and reclaim from it, when we
> > face memory contention.
> > 
> 
> Hmm,  Could you clarify following ?
>   
>   - Usage of memory at insertsion and usage of memory at reclaim is different.
>     So, this *sorted* order by RB-tree isn't the best order in general.

True, but we frequently update the tree at an interval of HZ/4.
Updating at every page fault sounded like an overkill and building the
entire tree at reclaim is an overkill too.

>     Why don't you sort this at memory-reclaim dynamically ?
>   - Considering above, the look of RB tree can be
> 
>                 +30M (an amount over soft limit is 30M)
>                 /  \
>              -15M   +60M

We don't have elements below their soft limit in the tree

>      ?
> 
>     At least, pleease remove the node at uncharge() when the usage goes down.
>

We do remove the tree if it goes under its soft limit at commit_charge,
I thought I had the same code in uncharge(), but clearly that is
missing. Thanks, I'll add it there.


> Thanks,
> -Kame

-- 
	Balbir

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  reply	other threads:[~2009-01-08  4:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-01-07 18:41 [RFC][PATCH 0/4] Memory controller soft limit patches Balbir Singh
2009-01-07 18:41 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/4] Memory controller soft limit documentation Balbir Singh
2009-01-14  1:45   ` Paul Menage
2009-01-14  5:30     ` Balbir Singh
2009-01-07 18:41 ` [RFC][PATCH 2/4] Memory controller soft limit interface Balbir Singh
2009-01-07 18:41 ` [RFC][PATCH 3/4] Memory controller soft limit organize cgroups Balbir Singh
2009-01-08  1:11   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-01-08  4:25     ` Balbir Singh [this message]
2009-01-08  4:28       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-01-08  4:41         ` Balbir Singh
2009-01-08  4:57           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-01-07 18:41 ` [RFC][PATCH 4/4] Memory controller soft limit reclaim on contention Balbir Singh
2009-01-07 18:56 ` [RFC][PATCH 0/4] Memory controller soft limit patches Dhaval Giani
2009-01-08  0:37   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-01-08  3:46     ` Balbir Singh
2009-01-08  0:30 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-01-08  3:59   ` Balbir Singh
2009-01-08  4:21     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-01-08  4:41     ` Daisuke Nishimura

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