From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
Cc: Chris Mason <chris.mason@oracle.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
Matthew Wilcox <matthew@wil.cx>, Chuck Lever <cel@citi.umich.edu>,
Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] wait: prevent waiter starvation in __wait_on_bit_lock
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 15:36:02 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090121143602.GA16584@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090120203131.GA20985@cmpxchg.org>
On 01/20, Johannes Weiner wrote:
>
> > But, more importantly, I'm afraid we can also have the false negative,
> > this "if (!test_bit())" test lacks the barriers. This can't happen with
> > sync_page_killable() because it always calls schedule(). But let's
> > suppose we modify it to check signal_pending() first:
> >
> > static int sync_page_killable(void *word)
> > {
> > if (fatal_signal_pending(current))
> > return -EINTR;
> > return sync_page(word);
> > }
> >
> > It is still correct, but unless I missed something now __wait_on_bit_lock()
> > has problems again.
>
> Hm, this would require the lock bit to be set without someone else
> doing the wakeup. How could this happen?
>
> I could think of wake_up_page() happening BEFORE clear_bit_unlock()
> and we have to be on the front of the waitqueue. Then we are already
> running, the wake up is a nop, the !test_bit() is false and noone
> wakes up the next real contender.
>
> But the wake up side uses a smp barrier after clearing the bit, so if
> the bit is not cleared we can expect a wake up, no?
Yes we have the barriers on the "wakeup", but this doesn't mean the
woken task must see the result of clear_bit() (unless it was really
unscheduled of course).
> Or do we still need a read-side barrier before the test bit?
Even this can't help afaics.
Because the the whole clear_bit + wakeup sequence can happen after
the "if (!test_bit()) check and before finish_wait(). Please note
that from the waker's pov we are sleeping in TASK_KILLABLE state,
it will wake up us if we are at the front of the waitqueue.
(to clarify, I am talking about the imaginary sync_page_killable()
above).
Oleg.
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Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
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2009-01-18 1:38 ` [PATCH v3] wait: prevent waiter starvation in __wait_on_bit_lock Johannes Weiner
2009-01-18 2:32 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-01-20 20:31 ` Johannes Weiner
2009-01-21 14:36 ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2009-01-21 21:38 ` [RFC v4] " Johannes Weiner
2009-01-22 20:25 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-01-23 0:26 ` Dmitry Adamushko
2009-01-23 0:47 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-01-23 10:07 ` Dmitry Adamushko
2009-01-23 11:05 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-01-23 12:36 ` Dmitry Adamushko
2009-01-23 9:59 ` Johannes Weiner
2009-01-23 11:35 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-01-23 13:30 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-01-26 21:59 ` [RFC v5] wait: prevent exclusive waiter starvation Johannes Weiner
2009-01-27 3:23 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-01-27 19:34 ` [RFC v6] " Johannes Weiner
2009-01-27 20:05 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-01-27 22:31 ` Johannes Weiner
2009-01-28 9:14 ` [RFC v7] " Johannes Weiner
2009-01-29 4:42 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-01-29 7:37 ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-29 8:31 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-01-29 9:11 ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-29 14:34 ` Chris Mason
2009-02-02 15:47 ` Chris Mason
2009-01-23 19:24 ` [RFC v4] wait: prevent waiter starvation in __wait_on_bit_lock Johannes Weiner
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