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From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Dmitry Adamushko <dmitry.adamushko@gmail.com>
Cc: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Chris Mason <chris.mason@oracle.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	Matthew Wilcox <matthew@wil.cx>, Chuck Lever <cel@citi.umich.edu>,
	Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Subject: Re: [RFC v4] wait: prevent waiter starvation in __wait_on_bit_lock
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 01:47:02 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090123004702.GA18362@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b647ffbd0901221626o5e654682t147625fa3e19976f@mail.gmail.com>

On 01/23, Dmitry Adamushko wrote:
>
> 2009/1/22 Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>:
> >
> > I think this is correct, and (unfortunately ;) you are right:
> > we need rmb() even after finish_wait().
>
> Hum, I think it's actually not necessary in this particular case when
> (1) "the next contender is us" and (2) we are in the "ret != 0" path
> so that the only thing we really care about -- if we were exclusivly
> woken up, then wake up somebody else [*].
>
> "the next contender is us" implies that we were still on the 'wq'
> queue when __wake_up_bit() -> __wake_up() has been called, meaning
> that wq->lock has also been taken (in __wake_up()).
>
> Now, on our side, we are definitely on the 'wq' queue before calling
> finish_wait(), meaning that we also take the wq->lock.
>
> In short, wq->lock is a sync. mechanism in this case. The scheme is as follows:
>
> our side:
>
> [ finish_wait() ]
>
> lock(wq->lock);

But we can skip lock(wq->lock), afaics.

Without rmb(), test_bit() can be re-ordered with list_empty_careful()
in finish_wait() and even with __set_task_state(TASK_RUNNING).

> p.s. if the explanation is vague or heh even wrong, it's definitely
> due to the lack of sleep ;-))

The same on my side ;)

Oleg.

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  reply	other threads:[~2009-01-23  0:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20090117215110.GA3300@redhat.com>
2009-01-18  1:38 ` [PATCH v3] wait: prevent waiter starvation in __wait_on_bit_lock Johannes Weiner
2009-01-18  2:32   ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-01-20 20:31     ` Johannes Weiner
2009-01-21 14:36       ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-01-21 21:38         ` [RFC v4] " Johannes Weiner
2009-01-22 20:25           ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-01-23  0:26             ` Dmitry Adamushko
2009-01-23  0:47               ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2009-01-23 10:07                 ` Dmitry Adamushko
2009-01-23 11:05                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-01-23 12:36                     ` Dmitry Adamushko
2009-01-23  9:59             ` Johannes Weiner
2009-01-23 11:35               ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-01-23 13:30                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-01-26 21:59                   ` [RFC v5] wait: prevent exclusive waiter starvation Johannes Weiner
2009-01-27  3:23                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-01-27 19:34                       ` [RFC v6] " Johannes Weiner
2009-01-27 20:05                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-01-27 22:31                           ` Johannes Weiner
2009-01-28  9:14                           ` [RFC v7] " Johannes Weiner
2009-01-29  4:42                             ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-01-29  7:37                               ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-29  8:31                                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-01-29  9:11                                   ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-29 14:34                                     ` Chris Mason
2009-02-02 15:47                                       ` Chris Mason
2009-01-23 19:24                 ` [RFC v4] wait: prevent waiter starvation in __wait_on_bit_lock Johannes Weiner

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