From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Dmitry Adamushko <dmitry.adamushko@gmail.com>
Cc: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
Chris Mason <chris.mason@oracle.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
Matthew Wilcox <matthew@wil.cx>, Chuck Lever <cel@citi.umich.edu>,
Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Subject: Re: [RFC v4] wait: prevent waiter starvation in __wait_on_bit_lock
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 12:05:00 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090123110500.GA12684@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b647ffbd0901230207u642e24cdg98700aa68ed1aa33@mail.gmail.com>
On 01/23, Dmitry Adamushko wrote:
>
> 2009/1/23 Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>:
> > On 01/23, Dmitry Adamushko wrote:
> >>
> >> In short, wq->lock is a sync. mechanism in this case. The scheme is as follows:
> >>
> >> our side:
> >>
> >> [ finish_wait() ]
> >>
> >> lock(wq->lock);
> >
> > But we can skip lock(wq->lock), afaics.
> >
> > Without rmb(), test_bit() can be re-ordered with list_empty_careful()
> > in finish_wait() and even with __set_task_state(TASK_RUNNING).
>
> But taking into account the constraints of this special case, namely
> (1), we can't skip lock(wq->lock).
>
> (1) "the next contender is us"
>
> In this particular situation, we are only interested in the case when
> we were woken up by __wake_up_bit().
Yes,
> that means we are _on_ the 'wq' list when we do finish_wait() -> we do
> take the 'wq->lock'.
Hmm. No?
We are doing exclusive wait, and we use autoremove_wake_function().
If we were woken, we are removed from ->task_list.
> Moreover, imagine the following case (roughly similar to finish_wait()):
>
> if (LOAD(a) == 1) {
> // do something here
> mb();
> }
>
> LOAD(b);
>
> Can LOAD(b) be reordered with LOAD(a)?
Well, I think yes it can. But I'd suggest you to ask somebody else ;)
So, without rmb() I think it is theoretically possible that we read
test_bit() before we get list_empty_careful() == T.
Oleg.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-01-23 11:07 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
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2009-01-18 1:38 ` [PATCH v3] wait: prevent waiter starvation in __wait_on_bit_lock Johannes Weiner
2009-01-18 2:32 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-01-20 20:31 ` Johannes Weiner
2009-01-21 14:36 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-01-21 21:38 ` [RFC v4] " Johannes Weiner
2009-01-22 20:25 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-01-23 0:26 ` Dmitry Adamushko
2009-01-23 0:47 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-01-23 10:07 ` Dmitry Adamushko
2009-01-23 11:05 ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2009-01-23 12:36 ` Dmitry Adamushko
2009-01-23 9:59 ` Johannes Weiner
2009-01-23 11:35 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-01-23 13:30 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-01-26 21:59 ` [RFC v5] wait: prevent exclusive waiter starvation Johannes Weiner
2009-01-27 3:23 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-01-27 19:34 ` [RFC v6] " Johannes Weiner
2009-01-27 20:05 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-01-27 22:31 ` Johannes Weiner
2009-01-28 9:14 ` [RFC v7] " Johannes Weiner
2009-01-29 4:42 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-01-29 7:37 ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-29 8:31 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-01-29 9:11 ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-29 14:34 ` Chris Mason
2009-02-02 15:47 ` Chris Mason
2009-01-23 19:24 ` [RFC v4] wait: prevent waiter starvation in __wait_on_bit_lock Johannes Weiner
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