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From: "Serge E. Hallyn" <serue@us.ibm.com>
To: Dave Hansen <dave@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	containers@lists.linux-foundation.org, hpa@zytor.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk, linux-api@vger.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	torvalds@linux-foundation.org, tglx@linutronix.de
Subject: Re: [RFC v13][PATCH 00/14] Kernel based checkpoint/restart
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 14:48:42 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090212204842.GA16269@us.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1234462283.30155.173.camel@nimitz>

Quoting Dave Hansen (dave@linux.vnet.ibm.com):
> Patch 12/14 is supposed to address this *concept*.  But, it hasn't been
> carried through so that it currently works.  My expectation was that we
> would go through and add things over time.  I'll go make sure I push it
> to the point that it actually works for at least the simple test
> programs that we have.
> 
> What I will probably do is something BKL-style.  Basically put a "this
> can't be checkpointed" marker over most everything I can think of and
> selectively remove it as we add features.  

So the question is: when can we unset the uncheckpointable flag?

In your patch you suggest clone(CLONE_NEWPID).  But that would
require that we at that point do a slew of checks for other
things like open files of a type which are not supported.

I'm wondering whether we should instead stick to calculating
whether a task is checkpointable or not at checkpoint time.
To help an application figure out whether it can be checkpointed,
we can hook /proc/$$/checkpointable to the same function, and
have the file output list all of the reasons the task is not
checkpointable.  i.e.

	mmap MAP_SHARED file which is not yet supported
	open file from another mounts namespace
	open TCP socket which is not yet supported
	open epoll fd which is not yet supported
	TASK NOT FROZEN

So now every time we do a checkpoint we have to do all these
checks, but that's better than at clone time.

You suggested on irc having a fops->is_checkpointable()
fn, which is imo a good idea to help implement the above.
The default value can be a fn returning false.  I suppose
we want to pass back a char* with the file type as well.

-serge

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Thread overview: 121+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-01-27 17:07 [RFC v13][PATCH 00/14] Kernel based checkpoint/restart Oren Laadan
2009-01-27 17:07 ` [RFC v13][PATCH 01/14] Create syscalls: sys_checkpoint, sys_restart Oren Laadan
2009-01-27 17:20   ` Randy Dunlap
2009-01-27 17:08 ` [RFC v13][PATCH 02/14] Checkpoint/restart: initial documentation Oren Laadan
2009-01-27 17:08 ` [RFC v13][PATCH 03/14] Make file_pos_read/write() public Oren Laadan
2009-01-27 17:08 ` [RFC v13][PATCH 04/14] General infrastructure for checkpoint restart Oren Laadan
2009-01-27 17:08 ` [RFC v13][PATCH 05/14] x86 support for checkpoint/restart Oren Laadan
2009-02-24  7:47   ` Nathan Lynch
2009-02-24 16:06     ` Dave Hansen
2009-03-18  7:21     ` Oren Laadan
2009-01-27 17:08 ` [RFC v13][PATCH 06/14] Dump memory address space Oren Laadan
2009-01-27 17:08 ` [RFC v13][PATCH 07/14] Restore " Oren Laadan
2009-01-27 17:08 ` [RFC v13][PATCH 08/14] Infrastructure for shared objects Oren Laadan
2009-01-27 17:08 ` [RFC v13][PATCH 09/14] Dump open file descriptors Oren Laadan
2009-01-27 17:08 ` [RFC v13][PATCH 10/14] Restore open file descriprtors Oren Laadan
2009-01-27 17:08 ` [RFC v13][PATCH 11/14] External checkpoint of a task other than ourself Oren Laadan
2009-01-27 17:08 ` [RFC v13][PATCH 12/14] Track in-kernel when we expect checkpoint/restart to work Oren Laadan
2009-01-27 17:08 ` [RFC v13][PATCH 13/14] Checkpoint multiple processes Oren Laadan
2009-01-27 17:08 ` [RFC v13][PATCH 14/14] Restart " Oren Laadan
2009-02-10 17:05 ` [RFC v13][PATCH 00/14] Kernel based checkpoint/restart Dave Hansen
2009-02-11 22:14   ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-12  9:17     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-12 18:11       ` Dave Hansen
2009-02-12 20:48         ` Serge E. Hallyn [this message]
2009-02-13 10:20         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-12 18:11     ` Dave Hansen
2009-02-12 19:30       ` Matt Mackall
2009-02-12 19:42         ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-12 21:51           ` What can OpenVZ do? Dave Hansen
2009-02-12 22:10             ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-12 23:04               ` How much of a mess does OpenVZ make? ;) Was: " Dave Hansen
2009-02-26 15:57                 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2009-03-10 21:53                   ` Alexey Dobriyan
2009-03-10 23:28                     ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-03-11  8:26                     ` Cedric Le Goater
2009-03-12 14:53                       ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-03-12 21:01                         ` Greg Kurz
2009-03-12 21:21                           ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-03-13  4:29                             ` Ying Han
2009-03-13  5:34                               ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2009-03-13  6:19                                 ` Ying Han
2009-03-13 17:27                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-13 19:02                                   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-03-13 19:35                                   ` Alexey Dobriyan
2009-03-13 21:01                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-13 21:51                                       ` Dave Hansen
2009-03-13 22:15                                         ` Oren Laadan
2009-03-14  0:27                                           ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-03-14  8:12                                             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-16 22:33                                               ` Kevin Fox
2009-03-19 21:19                                               ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-03-14  0:20                                       ` Alexey Dobriyan
2009-03-14  8:25                                         ` Ingo Molnar
     [not found]                                           ` <20090314082532.GB16436-X9Un+BFzKDI@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-14 17:11                                             ` Joseph Ruscio
2009-03-16  6:01                                           ` Oren Laadan
2009-03-13 20:48                                   ` Mike Waychison
2009-03-13 22:35                                     ` Oren Laadan
2009-03-18 18:54                                       ` Mike Waychison
2009-03-18 19:04                                         ` Oren Laadan
2009-03-13 15:27                               ` Cedric Le Goater
2009-03-13 17:11                                 ` Greg Kurz
2009-03-13 17:37                               ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-03-13 15:47                         ` Cedric Le Goater
2009-03-13 16:35                           ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-03-13 16:53                             ` Cedric Le Goater
2009-02-26 16:27                 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2009-02-26 17:33                   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-26 18:30                     ` Greg Kurz
2009-02-26 22:17                       ` Alexey Dobriyan
2009-02-27  9:19                         ` Greg Kurz
2009-02-27 10:53                           ` Alexey Dobriyan
2009-02-27 14:33                             ` Cedric Le Goater
2009-02-27  9:36                         ` Cedric Le Goater
2009-02-26 22:31                     ` Alexey Dobriyan
2009-02-27  9:03                       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-27  9:19                         ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-27 10:57                           ` Alexey Dobriyan
2009-02-27  9:22                         ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-27 10:59                           ` Alexey Dobriyan
2009-02-27 16:14                       ` Dave Hansen
2009-02-27 21:57                         ` Alexey Dobriyan
2009-02-27 21:54                           ` Dave Hansen
2009-03-01  1:33                       ` Alexey Dobriyan
2009-03-01 20:02                         ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-03-01 20:56                           ` Alexey Dobriyan
2009-03-01 22:21                             ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-03-03 16:17                             ` Cedric Le Goater
2009-03-03 18:28                               ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-02-13 10:53               ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-16 20:51                 ` Dave Hansen
2009-02-17 22:23                   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-17 22:30                     ` Dave Hansen
2009-02-18  0:32                       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-18  0:40                         ` Dave Hansen
2009-02-18  5:11                           ` Alexey Dobriyan
2009-02-18 18:16                             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-18 21:27                               ` Dave Hansen
2009-02-18 23:15                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-19 19:06                                   ` Banning checkpoint (was: Re: What can OpenVZ do?) Alexey Dobriyan
2009-02-19 19:11                                     ` Dave Hansen
2009-02-24  4:47                                       ` Alexey Dobriyan
2009-02-24  5:11                                         ` Dave Hansen
2009-02-24 15:43                                           ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-02-24 20:09                                           ` Alexey Dobriyan
2009-02-12 22:17             ` What can OpenVZ do? Alexey Dobriyan
2009-02-13 10:27             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-13 11:32               ` Alexey Dobriyan
2009-02-13 11:45                 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-13 22:28                   ` Alexey Dobriyan
2009-03-14  0:04                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-03-14  0:26                       ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-02-12 22:57         ` [RFC v13][PATCH 00/14] Kernel based checkpoint/restart Dave Hansen
2009-02-12 23:05           ` Matt Mackall
2009-02-12 23:13             ` Dave Hansen
2009-02-13 23:28       ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-14 23:08         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-14 23:31           ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-14 23:50             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-16 17:37         ` Dave Hansen
2009-03-13  2:45         ` Oren Laadan
2009-03-13  3:57           ` Oren Laadan

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