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From: Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>
To: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>
Cc: Lin Ming <ming.m.lin@intel.com>,
	Pekka Enberg <penberg@cs.helsinki.fi>,
	Linux Memory Management List <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@linux-foundation.org>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Zhang Yanmin <yanmin_zhang@linux.intel.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 00/19] Cleanup and optimise the page allocator V2
Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 13:51:05 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090303135105.GD10577@csn.ul.ie> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090303090442.GA17042@wotan.suse.de>

On Tue, Mar 03, 2009 at 10:04:42AM +0100, Nick Piggin wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 03, 2009 at 08:25:12AM +0000, Mel Gorman wrote:
> > On Tue, Mar 03, 2009 at 05:42:40AM +0100, Nick Piggin wrote:
> > > or if some change resulted in more cross-cpu operations then it
> > > could result in worse cache efficiency.
> > > 
> > 
> > It occured to me before sleeping last night that there could be a lot
> > of cross-cpu operations taking place in the buddy allocator itself. When
> > bulk-freeing pages, we have to examine all the buddies and merge them. In
> > the case of a freshly booted system, many of the pages of interest will be
> > within the same MAX_ORDER blocks. If multiple CPUs bulk free their pages,
> > they'll bounce the struct pages between each other a lot as we are writing
> > those cache lines. However, this would be incurring with or without my patches.
> 
> Oh yes it would definitely be a factor I think.
> 

It's on the list for a second or third pass to investigate.

>  
> > > OK, but the dynamic behaviour too. Free page A, free page B, allocate page
> > > A allocate page B etc.
> > > 
> > > The hot/cold removal would be an obvious example of what I mean, although
> > > that wasn't included in this recent patchset anyway.
> > > 
> > 
> > I get your point though, I'll keep it in mind. I've gone from plain
> > "reduce the clock cycles" to "reduce the cache misses" as if OLTP is
> > sensitive to this it has to be addressed as well.
> 
> OK cool. The patchset did look pretty good for reducing clock cycles
> though, so hopefully it turns out to be something simple.
> 

I'm hoping it is. I noticed a few oddities where we use more cache than we
need to that I cleaned up. However, the strongest possibility of being a
problem is actually the patch that removes the list-search for a page of a
given migratetype in the allocation path. The fix simplifies the allocation
path but increases the complexity of the bulk-free path by quite a bit and
increases the number of cache lines that are accessed. Worse, the fix grows
the per-cpu structure from one cache line to two on x86-64 NUMA machines
which I think is significant. I'm testing that at the moment but I might
end up dropping the patch from the first pass as a result and confine
the set to "obvious" wins.


-- 
Mel Gorman
Part-time Phd Student                          Linux Technology Center
University of Limerick                         IBM Dublin Software Lab

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  reply	other threads:[~2009-03-03 13:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-02-24 12:16 [RFC PATCH 00/19] Cleanup and optimise the page allocator V2 Mel Gorman
2009-02-24 12:16 ` [PATCH 01/19] Replace __alloc_pages_internal() with __alloc_pages_nodemask() Mel Gorman
2009-02-24 12:16 ` [PATCH 02/19] Do not sanity check order in the fast path Mel Gorman
2009-02-24 12:16 ` [PATCH 03/19] Do not check NUMA node ID when the caller knows the node is valid Mel Gorman
2009-02-24 17:17   ` Christoph Lameter
2009-02-24 12:17 ` [PATCH 04/19] Convert gfp_zone() to use a table of precalculated values Mel Gorman
2009-02-24 16:43   ` Christoph Lameter
2009-02-24 17:07     ` Mel Gorman
2009-02-24 12:17 ` [PATCH 05/19] Re-sort GFP flags and fix whitespace alignment for easier reading Mel Gorman
2009-02-24 12:17 ` [PATCH 06/19] Check only once if the zonelist is suitable for the allocation Mel Gorman
2009-02-24 17:24   ` Christoph Lameter
2009-02-24 12:17 ` [PATCH 07/19] Break up the allocator entry point into fast and slow paths Mel Gorman
2009-02-24 12:17 ` [PATCH 08/19] Simplify the check on whether cpusets are a factor or not Mel Gorman
2009-02-24 17:27   ` Christoph Lameter
2009-02-24 17:55     ` Mel Gorman
2009-02-24 12:17 ` [PATCH 09/19] Move check for disabled anti-fragmentation out of fastpath Mel Gorman
2009-02-24 12:17 ` [PATCH 10/19] Calculate the preferred zone for allocation only once Mel Gorman
2009-02-24 17:31   ` Christoph Lameter
2009-02-24 17:53     ` Mel Gorman
2009-02-24 12:17 ` [PATCH 11/19] Calculate the migratetype " Mel Gorman
2009-02-24 12:17 ` [PATCH 12/19] Calculate the alloc_flags " Mel Gorman
2009-02-24 12:17 ` [PATCH 13/19] Inline __rmqueue_smallest() Mel Gorman
2009-02-24 12:17 ` [PATCH 14/19] Inline buffered_rmqueue() Mel Gorman
2009-02-24 12:17 ` [PATCH 15/19] Do not call get_pageblock_migratetype() more than necessary Mel Gorman
2009-02-24 12:17 ` [PATCH 16/19] Do not disable interrupts in free_page_mlock() Mel Gorman
2009-02-24 12:17 ` [PATCH 17/19] Do not setup zonelist cache when there is only one node Mel Gorman
2009-02-24 12:17 ` [PATCH 18/19] Do not check for compound pages during the page allocator sanity checks Mel Gorman
2009-02-24 12:17 ` [PATCH 19/19] Split per-cpu list into one-list-per-migrate-type Mel Gorman
2009-02-26  9:10 ` [RFC PATCH 00/19] Cleanup and optimise the page allocator V2 Lin Ming
2009-02-26  9:26   ` Pekka Enberg
2009-02-26  9:27     ` Lin Ming
2009-02-26 11:03   ` Mel Gorman
2009-02-26 11:18     ` Pekka Enberg
2009-02-26 11:22       ` Mel Gorman
2009-02-26 12:27         ` Lin Ming
2009-02-27  8:44         ` Lin Ming
2009-03-02 11:21           ` Mel Gorman
2009-03-02 11:39             ` Nick Piggin
2009-03-02 12:16               ` Mel Gorman
2009-03-03  4:42                 ` Nick Piggin
2009-03-03  8:25                   ` Mel Gorman
2009-03-03  9:04                     ` Nick Piggin
2009-03-03 13:51                       ` Mel Gorman [this message]
2009-03-03 16:31             ` Christoph Lameter
2009-03-03 21:48               ` Mel Gorman
2009-03-04  2:05             ` Zhang, Yanmin
2009-03-04  7:23               ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-03-04  8:31                 ` Zhang, Yanmin
2009-03-04  9:07               ` Nick Piggin
2009-03-05  1:56                 ` Zhang, Yanmin
2009-03-05 10:34                   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-06  8:33                     ` Lin Ming
2009-03-06  9:39                       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-06 13:03                         ` Mel Gorman
2009-03-09  1:50                           ` Zhang, Yanmin
2009-03-09  7:31                         ` Lin Ming
2009-03-09  7:03                       ` Lin Ming
2009-03-04 18:04               ` Mel Gorman
2009-02-26 16:28       ` Christoph Lameter

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