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From: Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, YAMAMOTO Takashi <yamamoto@valinux.co.jp>,
	lizf@cn.fujitsu.com,
	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/5] Memory controller soft limit organize cgroups (v7)
Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 09:04:04 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090323033404.GG24227@balbir.in.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090323085314.7cce6c50.kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>

* KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com> [2009-03-23 08:53:14]:

> On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 19:51:05 +0530
> Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
> 
> > >         if (mem_cgroup_soft_limit_check(mem, &soft_fail_res)) {
> > > 		mem_over_soft_limit =
> > > 			mem_cgroup_from_res_counter(soft_fail_res, res);
> > > 		mem_cgroup_update_tree(mem_over_soft_limit);
> > > 	}
> > > 
> > > Then, we really do softlimit check once in interval.
> > 
> > OK, so the trade-off is - every once per interval,
> > I need to walk up res_counters all over again, hold all locks and
> > check. Like I mentioned earlier, with the current approach I've
> > reduced the overhead significantly for non-users. Earlier I was seeing
> > a small loss in output with reaim, but since I changed
> > res_counter_uncharge to track soft limits, that difference is negligible
> > now.
> > 
> > The issue I see with this approach is that if soft-limits were
> > not enabled, even then we would need to walk up the hierarchy and do
> > tests, where as embedding it in res_counter_charge, one simple check
> > tells us we don't have more to do.
> > 
> Not at all.
> 
> just check softlimit is enabled or not in mem_cgroup_soft_limit_check() by some flag.
>

So far, we don't use flags, the default soft limit is LONGLONG_MAX, if
hierarchy is enabled, we need to check all the way up. The only way we
check over limit is via a comparison. Are you suggesting we cache the
value or save a special flag whenever the soft limit is set to
anything other than LONGLONG_MAX? It is an indication that we are
using soft limits, but we still need to see if we exceed it.

Why are we trying to over optimize this path? Like I mentioned
earlier, the degradation is down to the order of noise. Knuth,
re-learnt several times that "premature optimization is the root of
all evil". If we find an issue with performance, we can definitely go
down the road you are suggesting.
 

-- 
	Balbir

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  reply	other threads:[~2009-03-23  2:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-03-19 16:57 [PATCH 0/5] Memory controller soft limit patches (v7) Balbir Singh
2009-03-19 16:57 ` [PATCH 1/5] Memory controller soft limit documentation (v7) Balbir Singh
2009-03-19 16:57 ` [PATCH 2/5] Memory controller soft limit interface (v7) Balbir Singh
2009-03-19 16:57 ` [PATCH 3/5] Memory controller soft limit organize cgroups (v7) Balbir Singh
2009-03-20  3:46   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-03-22 14:21     ` Balbir Singh
2009-03-22 23:53       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-03-23  3:34         ` Balbir Singh [this message]
2009-03-23  3:38           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-03-23  4:15             ` Balbir Singh
2009-03-23  4:23               ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-03-23  8:22                 ` Balbir Singh
2009-03-23  8:47                   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-03-23  9:30                     ` Balbir Singh
2009-03-25  4:59   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-03-25  5:29     ` Balbir Singh
2009-03-25  5:39       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-03-25  5:53         ` Balbir Singh
2009-03-25  6:01           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-03-25  6:21             ` Balbir Singh
2009-03-25  6:38               ` Balbir Singh
2009-03-25  5:07   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-03-25  5:18     ` Balbir Singh
2009-03-25  5:22       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-03-19 16:57 ` [PATCH 4/5] Memory controller soft limit refactor reclaim flags (v7) Balbir Singh
2009-03-20  3:47   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-03-22 14:21     ` Balbir Singh
2009-03-19 16:57 ` [PATCH 5/5] Memory controller soft limit reclaim on contention (v7) Balbir Singh
2009-03-20  4:06   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-03-22 14:27     ` Balbir Singh
2009-03-23  0:02       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-03-23  4:12         ` Balbir Singh
2009-03-23  4:20           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-03-23  8:28             ` Balbir Singh
2009-03-23  8:30               ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-03-23  3:50 ` [PATCH 0/5] Memory controller soft limit patches (v7) KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-03-23  5:22   ` Balbir Singh
2009-03-23  5:31     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-03-23  6:12     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-03-23  6:17       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-03-23  6:35         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-03-23  8:24           ` Balbir Singh
2009-03-23  9:12             ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-03-23  9:23               ` Balbir Singh
2009-03-23  8:35         ` Balbir Singh
2009-03-23  8:52           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-03-23  9:46             ` Balbir Singh
2009-03-23  9:41       ` Balbir Singh
2009-03-23  8:31 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-03-24 17:34 ` Balbir Singh
2009-03-24 23:55   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-03-25  3:42     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-03-25  4:02       ` Balbir Singh
2009-03-25  4:05         ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki

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