From: Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
Cc: "linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
"lizf@cn.fujitsu.com" <lizf@cn.fujitsu.com>,
Rik van Riel <riel@surriel.com>,
Bharata B Rao <bharata.rao@in.ibm.com>,
Dhaval Giani <dhaval@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFI] Shared accounting for memory resource controller
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 12:48:25 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090407071825.GR7082@balbir.in.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090407160014.8c545c3c.kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
* KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com> [2009-04-07 16:00:14]:
> On Tue, 7 Apr 2009 12:07:22 +0530
> Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi, All,
> >
> > This is a request for input for the design of shared page accounting for
> > the memory resource controller, here is what I have so far
> >
>
> In my first impression, I think simple counting is impossible.
> IOW, "usage count" and "shared or not" is very different problem.
>
> Assume a page and its page_cgroup.
>
> Case 1)
> 1. a page is mapped by process-X under group-A
> 2. its mapped by process-Y in group-B (now, shared and charged under group-A)
> 3. move process-X to group-B
> 4. now the page is not shared.
>
By shared I don't mean only between cgroups, it could be a page shared
in the same cgroup
> Case 2)
> swap is an object which can be shared.
>
Good point, I expect the user to account all cached pages as shared -
no?
> Case 3)
> 1. a page known as "A" is mapped by process-X under group-A.
> 2. its mapped by process-Y under group-B(now, shared and charged under group-A)
> 3. Do copy-on-write by process-X.
> Now, "A" is mapped only by B but accoutned under group-A.
> This case is ignored intentionally, now.
Yes, that is the original design
> Do you want to call try_charge() both against group-A and group-B
> under process-X's page fault ?
>
No we don't, but copy-on-write is caught at page_rmap_dup() - no?
> There will be many many corner case.
>
>
> > Motivation for shared page accounting
> > -------------------------------------
> > 1. Memory cgroup administrators will benefit from the knowledge of how
> > much of the data is shared, it helps size the groups correctly.
> > 2. We currently report only the pages brought in by the cgroup, knowledge
> > of shared data will give a complete picture of the actual usage.
> >
>
> Motivation sounds good. But counting this in generic rmap will have tons of
> troubles and slow-down.
>
> I bet we should prepare a file as
> /proc/<pid>/cgroup_maps
>
> And show RSS/RSS-owned-by-us per process. Maybe this feature will be able to be
> implemented in 3 days.
Yes, we can probably do that, but if we have too many processes in one
cgroup, we'll need to walk across all of them in user space. One other
alternative I did not mention is to walk the LRU like we walk page
tables and look at page_mapcount of every page, but that will be
very slow.
>
> Thanks,
> -Kame
>
>
--
Balbir
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-04-07 7:18 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-04-07 6:37 [RFI] Shared accounting for memory resource controller Balbir Singh
2009-04-07 7:00 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-04-07 7:18 ` Balbir Singh [this message]
2009-04-07 7:33 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-04-07 8:03 ` Balbir Singh
2009-04-07 8:24 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-04-07 10:10 ` Balbir Singh
2009-04-08 5:29 ` Balbir Singh
2009-04-08 6:15 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-04-08 7:04 ` Balbir Singh
2009-04-08 7:07 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-04-08 7:11 ` Balbir Singh
2009-04-08 7:18 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-04-08 7:31 ` Bharata B Rao
2009-04-08 7:34 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-04-08 7:45 ` Bharata B Rao
2009-04-08 7:52 ` Dhaval Giani
2009-04-08 7:39 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-04-08 7:48 ` Balbir Singh
2009-04-08 8:03 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-04-08 8:49 ` Balbir Singh
2009-04-08 8:54 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-04-08 9:02 ` Balbir Singh
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