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From: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
To: Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
Cc: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Vladislav Bolkhovitin <vst@vlnb.net>,
	Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>,
	Jeff Moyer <jmoyer@redhat.com>, Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Chenfeng Xu <xcf@ustc.edu.cn>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] readahead: introduce context readahead algorithm
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 12:00:02 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090414100002.GW14687@one.firstfloor.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090414092704.GD7001@localhost>

> I'll list some possible situations. I guess you are referring to (2.3)?

Yep. Thanks for the detailed analysis.

> 2.3) readahead cache hits: rare case and the impact is temporary
> 
> The page at @offset-1 does get referenced by this stream, but it's
> created by someone else at some distant time ago. The page at
> @offset-1 may be lifted to active lru by this second reference, or too
> late and get reclaimed - by the time we reference page @offset.
> 
> Normally its a range of cached pages. We are a) either walking inside the
> range and enjoying the cache hits, b) or we walk out of it and restart
> readahead by ourself, c) or the range of cached pages get reclaimed
> while we are walking on them, and hence cannot find page @offset-1.
> 
> Obviously (c) is rare and temporary and is the main cause of (2.3).
> As soon as we goto the next page at @offset+1, we'll its 'previous'
> page at @offset to be cached(it is created by us!). So the context
> readahead starts working again - it's merely delayed by one page :-)

Thanks. The question is how much performance impact this has on
the stream that is readaheaded.  I guess it would be only a smaller
"hickup", with some luck hidden by the block level RA?

The other question would be if it could cause the readahead code
to do a lot of unnecessary work, but your answer seems to be "no". Fine.

I think the concept is sound.

-Andi

-- 
ak@linux.intel.com -- Speaking for myself only.

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  reply	other threads:[~2009-04-14  9:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20090412071950.166891982@intel.com>
     [not found] ` <20090412072052.686760755@intel.com>
     [not found]   ` <20090412084819.GA25314@elte.hu>
2009-04-12 12:35     ` [PATCH 3/3] readahead: introduce context readahead algorithm Wu Fengguang
2009-04-16 17:12       ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
     [not found]   ` <87zlej7kwf.fsf@basil.nowhere.org>
2009-04-14  9:27     ` Wu Fengguang
2009-04-14 10:00       ` Andi Kleen [this message]
2009-04-14 10:58         ` Wu Fengguang
2009-04-14 11:11           ` Wu Fengguang

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