From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>
Cc: "Larry Woodman" <lwoodman@redhat.com>,
"Ingo Molnar" <mingo@elte.hu>,
"Fr馘駻ic Weisbecker" <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
"Li Zefan" <lizf@cn.fujitsu.com>,
"Pekka Enberg" <penberg@cs.helsinki.fi>,
eduard.munteanu@linux360.ro, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-mm@kvack.org, riel@redhat.com, rostedt@goodmis.org
Subject: Re: [Patch] mm tracepoints update - use case.
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 21:50:55 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090422215055.5be60685.akpm@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090423092933.F6E9.A69D9226@jp.fujitsu.com>
On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 09:48:04 +0900 (JST) KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com> wrote:
> > On Wed, 2009-04-22 at 08:07 -0400, Larry Woodman wrote:
> > > On Wed, 2009-04-22 at 11:57 +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > > > * KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > > In past thread, Andrew pointed out bare page tracer isn't useful.
> > > >
> > > > (do you have a link to that mail?)
http://lkml.indiana.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0903.0/02674.html
And Larry's example use case here tends to reinforce what I said then. Look:
: In addition I could see that the priority was decremented to zero and
: that 12342 pages had been reclaimed rather than just enough to satisfy
: the page allocation request.
:
: -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
: # tracer: nop
: #
: # TASK-PID CPU# TIMESTAMP FUNCTION
: # | | | | |
: <mem>-10723 [005] 6976.285610: mm_directreclaim_reclaimzone: reclaimed=12342, priority=0
and
: -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
: # tracer: nop
: #
: # TASK-PID CPU# TIMESTAMP FUNCTION
: # | | | | |
: <mem>-10723 [005] 282.776271: mm_pagereclaim_shrinkzone: reclaimed=12342
: <mem>-10723 [005] 282.781209: mm_pagereclaim_shrinkzone: reclaimed=3540
: <mem>-10723 [005] 282.801194: mm_pagereclaim_shrinkzone: reclaimed=7528
: -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
This diagnosis was successful because the "reclaimed" number was weird.
By sheer happy coincidence, page-reclaim is already generating the
aggregated numbers for us, and the tracer just prints it out.
If some other problem is being worked on and if there _isn't_ some
convenient already-present aggregated result for the tracer to print,
the problem won't be solved. Unless a vast number of trace events are
emitted and problem-specific userspace code is written to aggregate
them into something which the developer can use.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-04-23 4:56 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-04-21 22:45 [Patch] mm tracepoints update Larry Woodman
2009-04-22 1:00 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-04-22 9:57 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-22 12:07 ` Larry Woodman
2009-04-22 19:22 ` [Patch] mm tracepoints update - use case Larry Woodman
2009-04-23 0:48 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-04-23 4:50 ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2009-04-23 8:42 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-23 11:47 ` Larry Woodman
2009-04-24 20:48 ` Larry Woodman
2009-06-15 18:26 ` Rik van Riel
2009-06-17 14:07 ` Larry Woodman
2009-06-18 7:57 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-06-18 19:22 ` Larry Woodman
2009-06-18 19:40 ` Rik van Riel
2009-06-22 3:37 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-06-22 15:04 ` Larry Woodman
2009-06-23 5:52 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-06-22 3:37 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-06-22 15:28 ` Larry Woodman
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