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From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
To: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org, fengguang.wu@intel.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, nigel@tuxonice.net,
	rientjes@google.com, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/6] PM/Hibernate: Rework shrinking of memory
Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 19:49:52 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200905141949.53108.rjw@sisk.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090514094046.GF6417@elf.ucw.cz>

On Thursday 14 May 2009, Pavel Machek wrote:
> 
> > > > > The main point (I thought) was to remove shrink_all_memory().  Instead,
> > > > > we're retaining it and adding even more stuff?
> > > > 
> > > > The idea is that afterwards we can drop shrink_all_memory() once the
> > > > performance problem has been resolved.  Also, we now allocate memory for the
> > > > image using GFP_KERNEL instead of doing it with GFP_ATOMIC after freezing
> > > > devices.  I'd think that's an improvement?
> > > 
> > > Dunno.  GFP_KERNEL might attempt to do writeback/swapout/etc, which
> > > could be embarrassing if the devices are frozen.
> > 
> > They aren't, because the preallocation is done upfront, so once the OOM killer
> > has been taken care of, it's totally safe. :-)
> 
> As is GFP_ATOMIC. Except that GFP_KERNEL will cause catastrophic
> consequences when accounting goes wrong. (New kernel's idea of what is
> on disk will differ from what is _really_ on disk.)
> 
> If accounting is right, GFP_ATOMIC and GFP_KERNEL is equivalent.
> 
> If accounting is wrong, GFP_ATOMIC will fail with NULL, while
> GFP_KERNEL will do something bad.
> 
> I'd keep GFP_ATOMIC (or GFP_NOIO or similar). 

Repeating myself: with this and the next patch applied, we preallocate memory
for the image _before_ freezing devices and therefore it is safe to use
GFP_KERNEL, because the OOM killer has been taken care of by [3/6].

Thanks,
Rafael

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  reply	other threads:[~2009-05-14 18:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <200905070040.08561.rjw@sisk.pl>
2009-05-07 21:48 ` [RFC][PATCH 0/5] PM/Hibernate: Rework memory shrinking (rev. 2) Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-07 21:50   ` [RFC][PATCH 1/5] mm: Introduce __GFP_NO_OOM_KILL Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-07 22:24     ` [RFC][PATCH] PM/Freezer: Disable OOM killer when tasks are frozen (was: Re: [RFC][PATCH 1/5] mm: Introduce __GFP_NO_OOM_KILL) Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-07 21:51   ` [RFC][PATCH 2/5] PM/Suspend: Do not shrink memory before suspend Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-08  8:52     ` Wu Fengguang
2009-05-07 21:51   ` [RFC][PATCH 3/5] PM/Hibernate: Move memory shrinking to snapshot.c (rev. 2) Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-08  8:53     ` Wu Fengguang
2009-05-07 21:53   ` [RFC][PATCH 4/5] PM/Hibernate: Rework shrinking of memory Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-07 21:55   ` [RFC][PATCH 5/5] PM/Hibernate: Do not release preallocated memory unnecessarily Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-10 13:48   ` [RFC][PATCH 0/6] PM/Hibernate: Rework memory shrinking (rev. 3) Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-10 13:50     ` [RFC][PATCH 1/6] mm: Introduce __GFP_NO_OOM_KILL Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-11 20:12       ` David Rientjes
2009-05-11 22:14         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-11 22:33           ` Andrew Morton
2009-05-11 23:04             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-10 13:50     ` [RFC][PATCH 2/6] PM/Suspend: Do not shrink memory before suspend Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-10 13:51     ` [RFC][PATCH 3/6] PM/Hibernate: Move memory shrinking to snapshot.c (rev. 2) Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-10 13:53     ` [RFC][PATCH 4/6] PM/Hibernate: Rework shrinking of memory Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-10 13:57     ` [RFC][PATCH 5/6] PM/Hibernate: Do not release preallocated memory unnecessarily Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-10 19:49       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-10 14:12     ` [RFC][PATCH 6/6] PM/Hibernate: Estimate hard core working set size Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-10 19:53       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-13  8:32     ` [RFC][PATCH 0/6] PM/Hibernate: Rework memory shrinking (rev. 4) Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-13  8:34       ` [PATCH 1/6] PM/Suspend: Do not shrink memory before suspend Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-13  8:35       ` [PATCH 2/6] PM/Hibernate: Move memory shrinking to snapshot.c (rev. 2) Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-13  8:37       ` [PATCH 3/6] mm, PM/Freezer: Disable OOM killer when tasks are frozen Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-13  9:19         ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-13 22:35         ` David Rientjes
2009-05-13 22:47           ` Andrew Morton
2009-05-13 23:01             ` David Rientjes
2009-05-13  8:39       ` [PATCH 4/6] PM/Hibernate: Rework shrinking of memory Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-13 19:34         ` Andrew Morton
2009-05-13 20:55           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-13 21:16             ` Andrew Morton
2009-05-13 21:56               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-14  9:40                 ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-14 17:49                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki [this message]
2009-05-15 13:09                     ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-14 18:26             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-13  8:40       ` [PATCH 5/6] PM/Hibernate: Do not release preallocated memory unnecessarily (rev. 2) Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-14 11:09         ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-14 17:52           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-15 13:11             ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-15 14:52               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-13  8:42       ` [RFC][PATCH 6/6] PM/Hibernate: Do not try to allocate too much memory too hard Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-14 11:14         ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-14 17:59           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-15 13:14             ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-15 14:40               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-17 12:06         ` Wu Fengguang
2009-05-17 12:55           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-17 14:07             ` Wu Fengguang
2009-05-17 16:53               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-18  8:32                 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-05-17 21:14               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-18  8:56                 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-05-18 17:07                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-19  0:47                     ` Wu Fengguang

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