From: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>
To: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
Cc: hugh@veritas.com, riel@redhat.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
chris.mason@oracle.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-mm@kvack.org, fengguang.wu@intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] [13/16] HWPOISON: The high level memory error handler in the VM v3
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 14:37:20 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090602123720.GF1392@wotan.suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090602123450.GF1065@one.firstfloor.org>
On Tue, Jun 02, 2009 at 02:34:50PM +0200, Andi Kleen wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 02, 2009 at 02:10:31PM +0200, Nick Piggin wrote:
> > > It's not, there are various differences (like the reference count)
> >
> > No. If there are, then it *really* needs better documentation. I
> > don't think there are, though.
>
> Better documentation on what? You want a detailed listing in a comment
> how it is different from truncate?
>
> To be honest I have some doubts of the usefulness of such a comment
> (why stop at truncate and not list the differences to every other
> page cache operation? @) but if you're insist (do you?) I can add one.
Because I don't see any difference (see my previous patch). I
still don't know what it is supposed to be doing differently.
So if you reinvent your own that looks close enough to truncate
to warrant a comment to say /* this is close to truncate but
not quite */, then yes I insist that you say exactly why it is
not quite like truncate ;)
> > I'm suggesting that EIO is traditionally for when the data still
> > dirty in pagecache and was not able to get back to backing
> > store. Do you deny that?
>
> Yes. That is exactly the case when memory-failure triggers EIO
>
> Memory error on a dirty file mapped page.
But it is no longer dirty, and the problem was not that the data
was unable to be written back.
> > And I think the application might try to handle the case of a
> > page becoming corrupted differently. Do you deny that?
>
> You mean a clean file-mapped page? In this case there is no EIO,
> memory-failure just drops the page and it is reloaded.
>
> If the page is dirty we trigger EIO which as you said above is the
> right reaction.
No I mean the difference between the case of dirty page unable to
be written to backing sotre, and the case of dirty page becoming
corrupted.
> > OK, given the range of errors that APIs are defined to return,
> > then maybe EIO is the best option. I don't suppose it is possible
> > to expand them to return something else?
>
> Expand the syscalls to return other errnos on specific
> kinds of IO error?
>
> Of course that's possible, but it has the problem that you
> would need to fix all the applications that expect EIO for
> IO error. The later I consider infeasible.
They would presumably exit or do some default thing, which I
think would be fine. Actually if your code catches them in the
act of manipulating a corrupted page (ie. if it is mmapped),
then it gets a SIGBUS.
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Thread overview: 116+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-05-27 20:12 [PATCH] [0/16] HWPOISON: Intro Andi Kleen
2009-05-27 20:12 ` [PATCH] [1/16] HWPOISON: Add page flag for poisoned pages Andi Kleen
2009-05-27 20:35 ` Larry H.
2009-05-27 21:15 ` Alan Cox
2009-05-28 7:54 ` Andi Kleen
2009-05-29 16:10 ` Rik van Riel
2009-05-29 16:37 ` Andi Kleen
2009-05-29 16:34 ` Rik van Riel
2009-05-29 18:24 ` Andi Kleen
2009-05-29 18:26 ` Rik van Riel
2009-05-29 18:42 ` Andi Kleen
2009-05-27 20:12 ` [PATCH] [2/16] HWPOISON: Export poison flag in /proc/kpageflags Andi Kleen
2009-05-29 16:37 ` Rik van Riel
2009-05-27 20:12 ` [PATCH] [3/16] HWPOISON: Export some rmap vma locking to outside world Andi Kleen
2009-05-27 20:12 ` [PATCH] [4/16] HWPOISON: Add support for poison swap entries v2 Andi Kleen
2009-05-28 8:46 ` Hidehiro Kawai
2009-05-28 9:11 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-05-28 10:42 ` Andi Kleen
2009-05-27 20:12 ` [PATCH] [5/16] HWPOISON: Add new SIGBUS error codes for hardware poison signals Andi Kleen
2009-05-27 20:12 ` [PATCH] [6/16] HWPOISON: Add basic support for poisoned pages in fault handler v2 Andi Kleen
2009-05-29 4:15 ` Hidehiro Kawai
2009-05-29 6:28 ` Andi Kleen
2009-05-27 20:12 ` [PATCH] [7/16] HWPOISON: Add various poison checks in mm/memory.c Andi Kleen
2009-05-27 20:12 ` [PATCH] [8/16] HWPOISON: x86: Add VM_FAULT_HWPOISON handling to x86 page fault handler Andi Kleen
2009-05-27 20:12 ` [PATCH] [9/16] HWPOISON: Use bitmask/action code for try_to_unmap behaviour Andi Kleen
2009-05-28 7:27 ` Nick Piggin
2009-05-28 8:03 ` Andi Kleen
2009-05-28 8:28 ` Nick Piggin
2009-05-28 9:02 ` Andi Kleen
2009-05-28 12:26 ` Nick Piggin
2009-05-27 20:12 ` [PATCH] [10/16] HWPOISON: Handle hardware poisoned pages in try_to_unmap Andi Kleen
2009-05-27 20:12 ` [PATCH] [11/16] HWPOISON: Handle poisoned pages in set_page_dirty() Andi Kleen
2009-05-27 20:12 ` [PATCH] [12/16] HWPOISON: check and isolate corrupted free pages Andi Kleen
2009-05-27 20:12 ` [PATCH] [13/16] HWPOISON: The high level memory error handler in the VM v3 Andi Kleen
2009-05-28 8:26 ` Nick Piggin
2009-05-28 9:31 ` Andi Kleen
2009-05-28 12:08 ` Nick Piggin
2009-05-28 13:45 ` Andi Kleen
2009-05-28 14:50 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-04 6:25 ` Nai Xia
2009-06-07 16:02 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-08 11:06 ` Nai Xia
2009-06-08 12:31 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-08 14:46 ` Nai Xia
2009-06-09 6:48 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-09 10:48 ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-09 12:15 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-09 12:17 ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-09 12:47 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-09 13:36 ` Nai Xia
2009-05-28 16:56 ` Russ Anderson
2009-05-30 6:42 ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-01 11:39 ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-01 18:19 ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-01 12:05 ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-01 18:51 ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-02 12:10 ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-02 12:34 ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-02 12:37 ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2009-06-02 12:55 ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-02 13:03 ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-02 13:20 ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-02 13:19 ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-02 13:46 ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-02 13:47 ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-02 14:05 ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-02 13:30 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-02 14:07 ` Nick Piggin
2009-05-28 9:59 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-05-28 10:11 ` Andi Kleen
2009-05-28 10:33 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-05-28 10:51 ` Andi Kleen
2009-05-28 11:03 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-05-28 12:15 ` Nick Piggin
2009-05-28 13:48 ` Andi Kleen
2009-05-28 12:23 ` Nick Piggin
2009-05-28 13:54 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-01 11:50 ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-01 14:05 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-01 14:40 ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-02 11:14 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-02 12:19 ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-02 12:51 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-02 14:33 ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-03 10:21 ` Jens Axboe
2009-06-01 21:11 ` Hugh Dickins
2009-06-01 21:41 ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-01 18:32 ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-02 12:00 ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-02 12:47 ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-02 12:57 ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-02 13:25 ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-02 13:24 ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-02 13:41 ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-02 13:40 ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-02 13:53 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-02 14:06 ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-02 14:12 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-02 14:21 ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-02 13:46 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-02 14:08 ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-02 14:10 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-02 14:14 ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-02 15:17 ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-02 17:27 ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-03 9:35 ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-03 11:24 ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-02 13:02 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-02 15:09 ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-02 17:19 ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-03 6:24 ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-03 15:51 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-03 16:05 ` Andi Kleen
2009-05-27 20:12 ` [PATCH] [14/16] HWPOISON: FOR TESTING: Enable memory failure code unconditionally Andi Kleen
2009-05-27 20:12 ` [PATCH] [15/16] HWPOISON: Add madvise() based injector for hardware poisoned pages v3 Andi Kleen
2009-05-27 20:12 ` [PATCH] [16/16] HWPOISON: Add simple debugfs interface to inject hwpoison on arbitary PFNs Andi Kleen
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