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From: Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
To: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
Cc: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>,
	"hugh@veritas.com" <hugh@veritas.com>,
	"riel@redhat.com" <riel@redhat.com>,
	"akpm@linux-foundation.org" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"chris.mason@oracle.com" <chris.mason@oracle.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] [13/16] HWPOISON: The high level memory error handler in the VM v3
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 21:02:16 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090602130216.GB20462@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090602124757.GG1065@one.firstfloor.org>

On Tue, Jun 02, 2009 at 08:47:57PM +0800, Andi Kleen wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 02, 2009 at 02:00:42PM +0200, Nick Piggin wrote:
> > > On Mon, Jun 01, 2009 at 01:50:46PM +0200, Nick Piggin wrote:
> > > > > Another major complexity is on calling the isolation routines to
> > > > > remove references from
> > > > >         - PTE
> > > > >         - page cache
> > > > >         - swap cache
> > > > >         - LRU list
> > > > > They more or less made some assumptions on their operating environment
> > > > > that we have to take care of.  Unfortunately these complexities are
> > > > > also not easily resolvable.
> > > > > 
> > > > > > (and few comments) of all the files in mm/. If you want to get rid
> > > > > 
> > > > > I promise I'll add more comments :)
> > > > 
> > > > OK, but they should still go in their relevant files. Or as best as
> > > > possible. Right now it's just silly to have all this here when much
> > > > of it could be moved out to filemap.c, swap_state.c, page_alloc.c, etc.
> > > 
> > > Can you be more specific what that "all this" is? 
> > 
> > The functions which take action in response to a bad page being 
> > detected. They belong with the subsystem that the page belongs
> > to. I'm amazed this is causing so much argument or confusion
> > because it is how the rest of mm/ code is arranged. OK, Hugh has
> > a point about ifdefs, but OTOH we have lots of ifdefs like this.
> 
> Well we're already calling into that subsystem, just not with
> a single function call.
> 
> > > > > > of the page and don't care what it's count or dirtyness is, then
> > > > > > truncate_inode_pages_range is the correct API to use.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > (or you could extract out some of it so you can call it directly on
> > > > > > individual locked pages, if that helps).
> > > > >  
> > > > > The patch to move over to truncate_complete_page() would like this.
> > > > > It's not a big win indeed.
> > > > 
> > > > No I don't mean to do this, but to move the truncate_inode_pages
> > > > code for truncating a single, locked, page into another function
> > > > in mm/truncate.c and then call that from here.
> > > 
> > > I took a look at that.  First there's no direct equivalent of
> > > me_pagecache_clean/dirty in truncate.c and to be honest I don't
> > > see a clean way to refactor any of the existing functions to 
> > > do the same.
> > 
> > With all that writing you could have just done it. It's really
> 
> I would have done it if it made sense to me, but so far it hasn't.
> 
> The problem with your suggestion is that you do the big picture,
> but seem to skip over a lot of details. But details matter.
> 
> > not a big deal and just avoids duplicating code. I attached an
> > (untested) patch.
> 
> Thanks. But the function in the patch is not doing the same what
> the me_pagecache_clean/dirty are doing. For once there is no error
> checking, as in the second try_to_release_page()
> 
> Then it doesn't do all the IO error and missing mapping handling.
> 
> The page_mapped() check is useless because the pages are not 
> mapped here etc.
> 
> We could probably call truncate_complete_page(), but then
> we would also need to duplicate most of the checking outside
> the function anyways and there wouldn't be any possibility
> to share the clean/dirty variants. If you insist I can
> do it, but I think it would be significantly worse code
> than before and I'm reluctant to do that.
> 
> I don't also really see what the big deal is of just
> calling these few functions directly. After all we're not
> truncating here and they're all already called from other files.

Yes I like the current "one code block calling one elemental function
to isolate from one reference source" scenario:
         - PTE
         - page cache
         - swap cache
         - LRU list

Calling into the generic truncate code only messes up the concepts.

Thanks,
Fengguang

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-06-03 14:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 116+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-05-27 20:12 [PATCH] [0/16] HWPOISON: Intro Andi Kleen
2009-05-27 20:12 ` [PATCH] [1/16] HWPOISON: Add page flag for poisoned pages Andi Kleen
2009-05-27 20:35   ` Larry H.
2009-05-27 21:15   ` Alan Cox
2009-05-28  7:54     ` Andi Kleen
2009-05-29 16:10       ` Rik van Riel
2009-05-29 16:37         ` Andi Kleen
2009-05-29 16:34           ` Rik van Riel
2009-05-29 18:24             ` Andi Kleen
2009-05-29 18:26               ` Rik van Riel
2009-05-29 18:42                 ` Andi Kleen
2009-05-27 20:12 ` [PATCH] [2/16] HWPOISON: Export poison flag in /proc/kpageflags Andi Kleen
2009-05-29 16:37   ` Rik van Riel
2009-05-27 20:12 ` [PATCH] [3/16] HWPOISON: Export some rmap vma locking to outside world Andi Kleen
2009-05-27 20:12 ` [PATCH] [4/16] HWPOISON: Add support for poison swap entries v2 Andi Kleen
2009-05-28  8:46   ` Hidehiro Kawai
2009-05-28  9:11     ` Wu Fengguang
2009-05-28 10:42     ` Andi Kleen
2009-05-27 20:12 ` [PATCH] [5/16] HWPOISON: Add new SIGBUS error codes for hardware poison signals Andi Kleen
2009-05-27 20:12 ` [PATCH] [6/16] HWPOISON: Add basic support for poisoned pages in fault handler v2 Andi Kleen
2009-05-29  4:15   ` Hidehiro Kawai
2009-05-29  6:28     ` Andi Kleen
2009-05-27 20:12 ` [PATCH] [7/16] HWPOISON: Add various poison checks in mm/memory.c Andi Kleen
2009-05-27 20:12 ` [PATCH] [8/16] HWPOISON: x86: Add VM_FAULT_HWPOISON handling to x86 page fault handler Andi Kleen
2009-05-27 20:12 ` [PATCH] [9/16] HWPOISON: Use bitmask/action code for try_to_unmap behaviour Andi Kleen
2009-05-28  7:27   ` Nick Piggin
2009-05-28  8:03     ` Andi Kleen
2009-05-28  8:28       ` Nick Piggin
2009-05-28  9:02         ` Andi Kleen
2009-05-28 12:26           ` Nick Piggin
2009-05-27 20:12 ` [PATCH] [10/16] HWPOISON: Handle hardware poisoned pages in try_to_unmap Andi Kleen
2009-05-27 20:12 ` [PATCH] [11/16] HWPOISON: Handle poisoned pages in set_page_dirty() Andi Kleen
2009-05-27 20:12 ` [PATCH] [12/16] HWPOISON: check and isolate corrupted free pages Andi Kleen
2009-05-27 20:12 ` [PATCH] [13/16] HWPOISON: The high level memory error handler in the VM v3 Andi Kleen
2009-05-28  8:26   ` Nick Piggin
2009-05-28  9:31     ` Andi Kleen
2009-05-28 12:08       ` Nick Piggin
2009-05-28 13:45         ` Andi Kleen
2009-05-28 14:50           ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-04  6:25             ` Nai Xia
2009-06-07 16:02               ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-08 11:06                 ` Nai Xia
2009-06-08 12:31                   ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-08 14:46                     ` Nai Xia
2009-06-09  6:48                       ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-09 10:48                         ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-09 12:15                           ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-09 12:17                             ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-09 12:47                               ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-09 13:36                                 ` Nai Xia
2009-05-28 16:56           ` Russ Anderson
2009-05-30  6:42             ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-01 11:39               ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-01 18:19                 ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-01 12:05           ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-01 18:51             ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-02 12:10               ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-02 12:34                 ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-02 12:37                   ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-02 12:55                     ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-02 13:03                       ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-02 13:20                         ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-02 13:19                           ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-02 13:46                             ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-02 13:47                               ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-02 14:05                                 ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-02 13:30                     ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-02 14:07                       ` Nick Piggin
2009-05-28  9:59     ` Wu Fengguang
2009-05-28 10:11       ` Andi Kleen
2009-05-28 10:33         ` Wu Fengguang
2009-05-28 10:51           ` Andi Kleen
2009-05-28 11:03             ` Wu Fengguang
2009-05-28 12:15             ` Nick Piggin
2009-05-28 13:48               ` Andi Kleen
2009-05-28 12:23       ` Nick Piggin
2009-05-28 13:54         ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-01 11:50           ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-01 14:05             ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-01 14:40               ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-02 11:14                 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-02 12:19                   ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-02 12:51                     ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-02 14:33                       ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-03 10:21                       ` Jens Axboe
2009-06-01 21:11               ` Hugh Dickins
2009-06-01 21:41                 ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-01 18:32             ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-02 12:00               ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-02 12:47                 ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-02 12:57                   ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-02 13:25                     ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-02 13:24                       ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-02 13:41                         ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-02 13:40                           ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-02 13:53                           ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-02 14:06                             ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-02 14:12                               ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-02 14:21                                 ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-02 13:46                     ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-02 14:08                       ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-02 14:10                         ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-02 14:14                           ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-02 15:17                       ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-02 17:27                         ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-03  9:35                           ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-03 11:24                             ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-02 13:02                   ` Wu Fengguang [this message]
2009-06-02 15:09                   ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-02 17:19                     ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-03  6:24                       ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-03 15:51               ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-03 16:05                 ` Andi Kleen
2009-05-27 20:12 ` [PATCH] [14/16] HWPOISON: FOR TESTING: Enable memory failure code unconditionally Andi Kleen
2009-05-27 20:12 ` [PATCH] [15/16] HWPOISON: Add madvise() based injector for hardware poisoned pages v3 Andi Kleen
2009-05-27 20:12 ` [PATCH] [16/16] HWPOISON: Add simple debugfs interface to inject hwpoison on arbitary PFNs Andi Kleen

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