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From: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>
To: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
Cc: Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>,
	"hugh@veritas.com" <hugh@veritas.com>,
	"riel@redhat.com" <riel@redhat.com>,
	"akpm@linux-foundation.org" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"chris.mason@oracle.com" <chris.mason@oracle.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] [13/16] HWPOISON: The high level memory error handler in the VM v3
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 15:40:24 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090602134024.GA19390@wotan.suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090602134126.GM1065@one.firstfloor.org>

On Tue, Jun 02, 2009 at 03:41:26PM +0200, Andi Kleen wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 02, 2009 at 03:24:41PM +0200, Nick Piggin wrote:
> > On Tue, Jun 02, 2009 at 03:25:38PM +0200, Andi Kleen wrote:
> > > The reason this code double checks is that someone could have 
> > > a reference (remember we can come in any time) we cannot kill immediately.
> > 
> > Can't kill what? The page is gone from pagecache. It may remain
> > other kernel references, but I don't see why this code will
> > consider this as a failure (and not, for example, a raised error
> > count).
> 
> It's a failure because the page was still used and not successfully
> isolated.

But you're predicating success on page_count, so there can be
other users anyway. You do check page_count later and emit
a different message in this case, but even that isn't enough
to tell you if it has no more users.

I wouldn't have thought it's worth the complication, but
there is nothing preventing you using my truncate function
and also keeping this error check to test afterwards.
 

> > +        * remove_from_page_cache assumes (mapping && !mapped)
> > +        */
> > +       if (page_mapping(p) && !page_mapped(p)) {
> 
> Ok you're right. That one is not needed. I will remove it.
> 
> > > 
> > > User page tables was on the todo list, these are actually relatively
> > > easy. The biggest issue is to detect them.
> > > 
> > > Metadata would likely need file system callbacks, which I would like to 
> > > avoid at this point.
> > 
> > So I just don't know why you argue the point that you have lots
> > of large holes left.
> 
> I didn't argue that. My point was just that I currently don't have
> data what holes are the worst on given workloads. If I figure out at
> some point that writeback pages are a significant part of some important
> workload I would be interested in tackling them.
> That said I think that's unlikely, but I'm not ruling it out.

Well, it sounds like maybe there is a sane way to do them with your
IO interception... but anyway let's not worry about this right
now ;)

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  reply	other threads:[~2009-06-03 14:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 116+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-05-27 20:12 [PATCH] [0/16] HWPOISON: Intro Andi Kleen
2009-05-27 20:12 ` [PATCH] [1/16] HWPOISON: Add page flag for poisoned pages Andi Kleen
2009-05-27 20:35   ` Larry H.
2009-05-27 21:15   ` Alan Cox
2009-05-28  7:54     ` Andi Kleen
2009-05-29 16:10       ` Rik van Riel
2009-05-29 16:37         ` Andi Kleen
2009-05-29 16:34           ` Rik van Riel
2009-05-29 18:24             ` Andi Kleen
2009-05-29 18:26               ` Rik van Riel
2009-05-29 18:42                 ` Andi Kleen
2009-05-27 20:12 ` [PATCH] [2/16] HWPOISON: Export poison flag in /proc/kpageflags Andi Kleen
2009-05-29 16:37   ` Rik van Riel
2009-05-27 20:12 ` [PATCH] [3/16] HWPOISON: Export some rmap vma locking to outside world Andi Kleen
2009-05-27 20:12 ` [PATCH] [4/16] HWPOISON: Add support for poison swap entries v2 Andi Kleen
2009-05-28  8:46   ` Hidehiro Kawai
2009-05-28  9:11     ` Wu Fengguang
2009-05-28 10:42     ` Andi Kleen
2009-05-27 20:12 ` [PATCH] [5/16] HWPOISON: Add new SIGBUS error codes for hardware poison signals Andi Kleen
2009-05-27 20:12 ` [PATCH] [6/16] HWPOISON: Add basic support for poisoned pages in fault handler v2 Andi Kleen
2009-05-29  4:15   ` Hidehiro Kawai
2009-05-29  6:28     ` Andi Kleen
2009-05-27 20:12 ` [PATCH] [7/16] HWPOISON: Add various poison checks in mm/memory.c Andi Kleen
2009-05-27 20:12 ` [PATCH] [8/16] HWPOISON: x86: Add VM_FAULT_HWPOISON handling to x86 page fault handler Andi Kleen
2009-05-27 20:12 ` [PATCH] [9/16] HWPOISON: Use bitmask/action code for try_to_unmap behaviour Andi Kleen
2009-05-28  7:27   ` Nick Piggin
2009-05-28  8:03     ` Andi Kleen
2009-05-28  8:28       ` Nick Piggin
2009-05-28  9:02         ` Andi Kleen
2009-05-28 12:26           ` Nick Piggin
2009-05-27 20:12 ` [PATCH] [10/16] HWPOISON: Handle hardware poisoned pages in try_to_unmap Andi Kleen
2009-05-27 20:12 ` [PATCH] [11/16] HWPOISON: Handle poisoned pages in set_page_dirty() Andi Kleen
2009-05-27 20:12 ` [PATCH] [12/16] HWPOISON: check and isolate corrupted free pages Andi Kleen
2009-05-27 20:12 ` [PATCH] [13/16] HWPOISON: The high level memory error handler in the VM v3 Andi Kleen
2009-05-28  8:26   ` Nick Piggin
2009-05-28  9:31     ` Andi Kleen
2009-05-28 12:08       ` Nick Piggin
2009-05-28 13:45         ` Andi Kleen
2009-05-28 14:50           ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-04  6:25             ` Nai Xia
2009-06-07 16:02               ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-08 11:06                 ` Nai Xia
2009-06-08 12:31                   ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-08 14:46                     ` Nai Xia
2009-06-09  6:48                       ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-09 10:48                         ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-09 12:15                           ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-09 12:17                             ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-09 12:47                               ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-09 13:36                                 ` Nai Xia
2009-05-28 16:56           ` Russ Anderson
2009-05-30  6:42             ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-01 11:39               ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-01 18:19                 ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-01 12:05           ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-01 18:51             ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-02 12:10               ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-02 12:34                 ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-02 12:37                   ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-02 12:55                     ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-02 13:03                       ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-02 13:20                         ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-02 13:19                           ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-02 13:46                             ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-02 13:47                               ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-02 14:05                                 ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-02 13:30                     ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-02 14:07                       ` Nick Piggin
2009-05-28  9:59     ` Wu Fengguang
2009-05-28 10:11       ` Andi Kleen
2009-05-28 10:33         ` Wu Fengguang
2009-05-28 10:51           ` Andi Kleen
2009-05-28 11:03             ` Wu Fengguang
2009-05-28 12:15             ` Nick Piggin
2009-05-28 13:48               ` Andi Kleen
2009-05-28 12:23       ` Nick Piggin
2009-05-28 13:54         ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-01 11:50           ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-01 14:05             ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-01 14:40               ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-02 11:14                 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-02 12:19                   ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-02 12:51                     ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-02 14:33                       ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-03 10:21                       ` Jens Axboe
2009-06-01 21:11               ` Hugh Dickins
2009-06-01 21:41                 ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-01 18:32             ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-02 12:00               ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-02 12:47                 ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-02 12:57                   ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-02 13:25                     ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-02 13:24                       ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-02 13:41                         ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-02 13:40                           ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2009-06-02 13:53                           ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-02 14:06                             ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-02 14:12                               ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-02 14:21                                 ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-02 13:46                     ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-02 14:08                       ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-02 14:10                         ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-02 14:14                           ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-02 15:17                       ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-02 17:27                         ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-03  9:35                           ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-03 11:24                             ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-02 13:02                   ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-02 15:09                   ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-02 17:19                     ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-03  6:24                       ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-03 15:51               ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-03 16:05                 ` Andi Kleen
2009-05-27 20:12 ` [PATCH] [14/16] HWPOISON: FOR TESTING: Enable memory failure code unconditionally Andi Kleen
2009-05-27 20:12 ` [PATCH] [15/16] HWPOISON: Add madvise() based injector for hardware poisoned pages v3 Andi Kleen
2009-05-27 20:12 ` [PATCH] [16/16] HWPOISON: Add simple debugfs interface to inject hwpoison on arbitary PFNs Andi Kleen

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