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From: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>
To: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
Cc: hugh@veritas.com, riel@redhat.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	chris.mason@oracle.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, fengguang.wu@intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] [13/16] HWPOISON: The high level memory error handler in the VM v3
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 15:47:39 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090602134739.GA26982@wotan.suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090602134610.GO1065@one.firstfloor.org>

On Tue, Jun 02, 2009 at 03:46:10PM +0200, Andi Kleen wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 02, 2009 at 03:19:37PM +0200, Nick Piggin wrote:
> > > I assume that if an application does something with EIO it 
> > > can either retry a few times or give up. Both is ok here.
> > 
> > That's exactly the case where it is not OK, because the
> > dirty page was now removed from pagecache, so the subsequent
> > fsync is going to succeed and the app will think its dirty
> > data has hit disk.
> 
> Ok that's a fair point -- that's a hole in my scheme. I don't
> know of a good way to fix it though. Do you?
> 
> I suspect adding a new errno would break more cases than fixing
> them.

Right, I wasn't too serious about the new errno (although maybe
others have opinions about the feasibility of that?). Because
I just don't know the full consequences.

I was kind of thinking about we could SIGKILL them as they try
to access it or fsync it. But then the question is how long to
keep SIGKILLing? At one end of the scale you could do stupid
and simple and have another error flag in the mapping to do
the SIGKILL just once for the next read/write/fsync etc. Or
at the other end, you keep the page in the pagecache and
poisoned, and kill everyone until the page is explicitly truncated
by userspace. I don't really know...

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  reply	other threads:[~2009-06-03 14:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 116+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-05-27 20:12 [PATCH] [0/16] HWPOISON: Intro Andi Kleen
2009-05-27 20:12 ` [PATCH] [1/16] HWPOISON: Add page flag for poisoned pages Andi Kleen
2009-05-27 20:35   ` Larry H.
2009-05-27 21:15   ` Alan Cox
2009-05-28  7:54     ` Andi Kleen
2009-05-29 16:10       ` Rik van Riel
2009-05-29 16:37         ` Andi Kleen
2009-05-29 16:34           ` Rik van Riel
2009-05-29 18:24             ` Andi Kleen
2009-05-29 18:26               ` Rik van Riel
2009-05-29 18:42                 ` Andi Kleen
2009-05-27 20:12 ` [PATCH] [2/16] HWPOISON: Export poison flag in /proc/kpageflags Andi Kleen
2009-05-29 16:37   ` Rik van Riel
2009-05-27 20:12 ` [PATCH] [3/16] HWPOISON: Export some rmap vma locking to outside world Andi Kleen
2009-05-27 20:12 ` [PATCH] [4/16] HWPOISON: Add support for poison swap entries v2 Andi Kleen
2009-05-28  8:46   ` Hidehiro Kawai
2009-05-28  9:11     ` Wu Fengguang
2009-05-28 10:42     ` Andi Kleen
2009-05-27 20:12 ` [PATCH] [5/16] HWPOISON: Add new SIGBUS error codes for hardware poison signals Andi Kleen
2009-05-27 20:12 ` [PATCH] [6/16] HWPOISON: Add basic support for poisoned pages in fault handler v2 Andi Kleen
2009-05-29  4:15   ` Hidehiro Kawai
2009-05-29  6:28     ` Andi Kleen
2009-05-27 20:12 ` [PATCH] [7/16] HWPOISON: Add various poison checks in mm/memory.c Andi Kleen
2009-05-27 20:12 ` [PATCH] [8/16] HWPOISON: x86: Add VM_FAULT_HWPOISON handling to x86 page fault handler Andi Kleen
2009-05-27 20:12 ` [PATCH] [9/16] HWPOISON: Use bitmask/action code for try_to_unmap behaviour Andi Kleen
2009-05-28  7:27   ` Nick Piggin
2009-05-28  8:03     ` Andi Kleen
2009-05-28  8:28       ` Nick Piggin
2009-05-28  9:02         ` Andi Kleen
2009-05-28 12:26           ` Nick Piggin
2009-05-27 20:12 ` [PATCH] [10/16] HWPOISON: Handle hardware poisoned pages in try_to_unmap Andi Kleen
2009-05-27 20:12 ` [PATCH] [11/16] HWPOISON: Handle poisoned pages in set_page_dirty() Andi Kleen
2009-05-27 20:12 ` [PATCH] [12/16] HWPOISON: check and isolate corrupted free pages Andi Kleen
2009-05-27 20:12 ` [PATCH] [13/16] HWPOISON: The high level memory error handler in the VM v3 Andi Kleen
2009-05-28  8:26   ` Nick Piggin
2009-05-28  9:31     ` Andi Kleen
2009-05-28 12:08       ` Nick Piggin
2009-05-28 13:45         ` Andi Kleen
2009-05-28 14:50           ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-04  6:25             ` Nai Xia
2009-06-07 16:02               ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-08 11:06                 ` Nai Xia
2009-06-08 12:31                   ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-08 14:46                     ` Nai Xia
2009-06-09  6:48                       ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-09 10:48                         ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-09 12:15                           ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-09 12:17                             ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-09 12:47                               ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-09 13:36                                 ` Nai Xia
2009-05-28 16:56           ` Russ Anderson
2009-05-30  6:42             ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-01 11:39               ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-01 18:19                 ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-01 12:05           ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-01 18:51             ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-02 12:10               ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-02 12:34                 ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-02 12:37                   ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-02 12:55                     ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-02 13:03                       ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-02 13:20                         ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-02 13:19                           ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-02 13:46                             ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-02 13:47                               ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2009-06-02 14:05                                 ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-02 13:30                     ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-02 14:07                       ` Nick Piggin
2009-05-28  9:59     ` Wu Fengguang
2009-05-28 10:11       ` Andi Kleen
2009-05-28 10:33         ` Wu Fengguang
2009-05-28 10:51           ` Andi Kleen
2009-05-28 11:03             ` Wu Fengguang
2009-05-28 12:15             ` Nick Piggin
2009-05-28 13:48               ` Andi Kleen
2009-05-28 12:23       ` Nick Piggin
2009-05-28 13:54         ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-01 11:50           ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-01 14:05             ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-01 14:40               ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-02 11:14                 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-02 12:19                   ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-02 12:51                     ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-02 14:33                       ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-03 10:21                       ` Jens Axboe
2009-06-01 21:11               ` Hugh Dickins
2009-06-01 21:41                 ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-01 18:32             ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-02 12:00               ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-02 12:47                 ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-02 12:57                   ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-02 13:25                     ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-02 13:24                       ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-02 13:41                         ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-02 13:40                           ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-02 13:53                           ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-02 14:06                             ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-02 14:12                               ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-02 14:21                                 ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-02 13:46                     ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-02 14:08                       ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-02 14:10                         ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-02 14:14                           ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-02 15:17                       ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-02 17:27                         ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-03  9:35                           ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-03 11:24                             ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-02 13:02                   ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-02 15:09                   ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-02 17:19                     ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-03  6:24                       ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-03 15:51               ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-03 16:05                 ` Andi Kleen
2009-05-27 20:12 ` [PATCH] [14/16] HWPOISON: FOR TESTING: Enable memory failure code unconditionally Andi Kleen
2009-05-27 20:12 ` [PATCH] [15/16] HWPOISON: Add madvise() based injector for hardware poisoned pages v3 Andi Kleen
2009-05-27 20:12 ` [PATCH] [16/16] HWPOISON: Add simple debugfs interface to inject hwpoison on arbitary PFNs Andi Kleen

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