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From: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>
To: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, fengguang.wu@intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] [0/16] HWPOISON: Intro
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 12:20:14 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090609102014.GG14820@wotan.suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090603846.816684333@firstfloor.org>

On Wed, Jun 03, 2009 at 08:46:31PM +0200, Andi Kleen wrote:
> Also I thought a bit about the fsync() error scenario. It's really
> a problem that can already happen even without hwpoison, e.g.
> when a page is dropped at the wrong time.

No, the page will never be "dropped" like that except with
this hwpoison. Errors, sure, might get dropped sometimes
due to implementation bugs, but this is adding semantics that
basically break fsync by-design.

I really want to resolve the EIO issue because as I said, it
is a user-abi issue and too many of those just get shoved
through only for someone to care about fundamental breakage
after some years.

You say that SIGKILL is overkill for such pages, but in fact
this is exactly what you do with mapped pages anyway, so why
not with other pages as well? I think it is perfectly fine to
do so (and maybe a new error code can be introduced and that
can be delivered to processes that can handle it rather than
SIGKILL).

Last request: do you have a panic-on-memory-error option?
I think HA systems and ones with properly designed data
integrity at the application layer will much prefer to
halt the system than attempt ad-hoc recovery that does not
always work and might screw things up worse.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-06-09  9:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-06-03 18:46 [PATCH] [0/16] HWPOISON: Intro Andi Kleen
2009-06-03 18:46 ` [PATCH] [1/16] HWPOISON: Add page flag for poisoned pages Andi Kleen
2009-06-03 18:46 ` [PATCH] [2/16] HWPOISON: Export some rmap vma locking to outside world Andi Kleen
2009-06-03 18:46 ` [PATCH] [3/16] HWPOISON: Add support for poison swap entries v2 Andi Kleen
2009-06-03 18:46 ` [PATCH] [4/16] HWPOISON: Add new SIGBUS error codes for hardware poison signals Andi Kleen
2009-06-03 18:46 ` [PATCH] [5/16] HWPOISON: Add basic support for poisoned pages in fault handler v3 Andi Kleen
2009-06-03 18:46 ` [PATCH] [6/16] HWPOISON: Add various poison checks in mm/memory.c Andi Kleen
2009-06-04  4:26   ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-04  5:19     ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-04 11:55       ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-04 12:52         ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-04 12:50           ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-04 13:02             ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-04 13:16               ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-09 10:25   ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-09 12:21     ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-09 12:35       ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-03 18:46 ` [PATCH] [7/16] HWPOISON: x86: Add VM_FAULT_HWPOISON handling to x86 page fault handler v2 Andi Kleen
2009-06-09  9:54   ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-09 12:34     ` [PATCH] HWPOISON: define VM_FAULT_HWPOISON to 0 when feature is disabled Wu Fengguang
2009-06-03 18:46 ` [PATCH] [8/16] HWPOISON: Use bitmask/action code for try_to_unmap behaviour Andi Kleen
2009-06-09  9:57   ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-10  2:27     ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-10  6:07       ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-03 18:46 ` [PATCH] [9/16] HWPOISON: Handle hardware poisoned pages in try_to_unmap Andi Kleen
2009-06-04  4:35   ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-04  5:21     ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-03 18:46 ` [PATCH] [10/16] HWPOISON: Handle poisoned pages in set_page_dirty() Andi Kleen
2009-06-04  0:36   ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-04  5:27     ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-09  9:59   ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-09 12:51     ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-03 18:46 ` [PATCH] [11/16] HWPOISON: check and isolate corrupted free pages v2 Andi Kleen
2009-06-09 10:02   ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-09 13:03     ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-09 13:28       ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-09 13:49         ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-09 13:55           ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-09 14:56             ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-09 15:31               ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-03 18:46 ` [PATCH] [12/16] Refactor truncate to allow direct truncating of page Andi Kleen
2009-06-04  4:32   ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-04  5:20     ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-03 18:46 ` [PATCH] [13/16] HWPOISON: The high level memory error handler in the VM v5 Andi Kleen
2009-06-04  3:24   ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-04  5:13     ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-04  9:07       ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-04  9:26         ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-09  9:51   ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-09 11:14     ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-09 10:09   ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-09 16:05     ` Hugh Dickins
2009-06-09 16:35       ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-10  8:38       ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-10  8:59         ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-10  9:20           ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-10 11:03             ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-10 12:16               ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-10 12:36                 ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-12  9:58       ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-10  3:10     ` [PATCH] HWPOISON: fix tasklist_lock/anon_vma locking order Wu Fengguang
2009-06-03 18:46 ` [PATCH] [14/16] HWPOISON: FOR TESTING: Enable memory failure code unconditionally Andi Kleen
2009-06-03 18:46 ` [PATCH] [15/16] HWPOISON: Add madvise() based injector for hardware poisoned pages v3 Andi Kleen
2009-06-03 18:46 ` [PATCH] [16/16] HWPOISON: Add simple debugfs interface to inject hwpoison on arbitary PFNs Andi Kleen
2009-06-09 10:20 ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2009-06-10  9:07   ` [PATCH] [0/16] HWPOISON: Intro Wu Fengguang
2009-06-10  9:18     ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-10  9:45       ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-10 11:15         ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-10 12:36           ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-10 12:47             ` Nick Piggin
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-05-29 21:35 Andi Kleen
2009-05-29 21:52 ` Alan Cox
2009-05-29 22:24   ` Andi Kleen
2009-05-27 20:12 Andi Kleen

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