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From: Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>,
	Hugh Dickins <hugh.dickins@tiscali.co.uk>,
	Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	"riel@redhat.com" <riel@redhat.com>,
	"chris.mason@oracle.com" <chris.mason@oracle.com>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/5] HWPOISON: define VM_FAULT_HWPOISON to 0 when feature is disabled
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 13:55:18 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090612175518.GE6417@mit.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090612153620.GB23483@elte.hu>

On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 05:36:20PM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > The data corruption has not caused real hurt yet, and can be 
> > isolated to prevent future accesses.  So it makes sense to just 
> > kill the impacted process(es).
> 
> Dunno, this just looks like a license to allow more crappy hardware, 
> hm? I'm all for _logging_ errors, but hwpoison is not about that: it 
> is about allowing the hardware to limp along in 'enterprise' setups, 
> with a (false looking) 'guarantee' that everything is fine.

This should be tunable; in some cases, logging it is the right thing
to do; I imagine that in the case of the desktop OS, the user would
appreciate being given *some* chance to save the document he or she
has spent the past hour working on before the system goes down "hard
and fast".

In other cases, the sysadmin is using a high-availability setup in an
enterprise deployment, and there he or she would want the system to
immediately shutdown so the hot standby can take over.

	    	     	    		    	 - Ted

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-06-12 17:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-06-11 14:22 [PATCH 0/5] [RFC] HWPOISON incremental fixes Wu Fengguang
2009-06-11 14:22 ` [PATCH 1/5] HWPOISON: define VM_FAULT_HWPOISON to 0 when feature is disabled Wu Fengguang
2009-06-11 15:44   ` Rik van Riel
2009-06-12 10:00   ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-12 13:15     ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-12 11:22   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-06-12 12:57     ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-12 13:17       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-06-12 13:33         ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-12 15:36           ` Ingo Molnar
2009-06-12 16:14             ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-12 18:07               ` Alan Cox
2009-06-12 17:55             ` Theodore Tso [this message]
2009-06-12 13:58         ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-12 15:28         ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-12 15:35           ` Ingo Molnar
2009-06-12 16:05             ` Rik van Riel
2009-06-12 16:37             ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-06-12 16:48               ` Ingo Molnar
2009-06-15  7:04               ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-15  6:52             ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-16 20:27               ` Russ Anderson
2009-06-17  7:51                 ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-12 15:45         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-06-12 16:12           ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-11 14:22 ` [PATCH 2/5] HWPOISON: fix tasklist_lock/anon_vma locking order Wu Fengguang
2009-06-11 15:59   ` Rik van Riel
2009-06-12 10:03   ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-12 10:07     ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-12 13:27     ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-12 14:04       ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-11 14:22 ` [PATCH 3/5] HWPOISON: remove early kill option for now Wu Fengguang
2009-06-11 16:06   ` Rik van Riel
2009-06-12  9:59   ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-11 14:22 ` [PATCH 4/5] HWPOISON: report sticky EIO for poisoned file Wu Fengguang
2009-06-11 16:31   ` Rik van Riel
2009-06-12 10:07   ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-12 13:41     ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-11 14:22 ` [PATCH 5/5] HWPOISON: use the safer invalidate page for possible metadata pages Wu Fengguang
2009-06-11 16:36   ` Rik van Riel
2009-06-12 10:56 ` [PATCH 0/5] [RFC] HWPOISON incremental fixes Andi Kleen
2009-06-12 13:59   ` Wu Fengguang

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