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From: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Hugh Dickins <hugh.dickins@tiscali.co.uk>,
	Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	"riel@redhat.com" <riel@redhat.com>,
	"chris.mason@oracle.com" <chris.mason@oracle.com>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/5] HWPOISON: define VM_FAULT_HWPOISON to 0 when feature is disabled
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 08:52:32 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090615065232.GC18390@wotan.suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090612153501.GA5737@elte.hu>

On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 05:35:01PM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> 
> * Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
> 
> > On Fri, 12 Jun 2009, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > > 
> > > This seems like trying to handle a failure mode that cannot be 
> > > and shouldnt be 'handled' really. If there's an 'already 
> > > corrupted' page then the box should go down hard and fast, and 
> > > we should not risk _even more user data corruption_ by trying to 
> > > 'continue' in the hope of having hit some 'harmless' user 
> > > process that can be killed ...
> > 
> > No, the box should _not_ go down hard-and-fast. That's the last 
> > thing we should *ever* do.
> > 
> > We need to log it. Often at a user level (ie we want to make sure 
> > it actually hits syslog, possibly goes out the network, maybe pops 
> > up a window, whatever).
> > 
> > Shutting down the machine is the last thing we ever want to do.
> > 
> > The whole "let's panic" mentality is a disease.
> 
> No doubt about that - and i'm removing BUG_ON()s and panic()s 
> wherever i can and havent added a single new one myself in the past 
> 5 years or so, its a disease.

In HA failover systems you often do want to panic ASAP (after logging
to serial cosole I guess) if anything like this happens so the system
can be rebooted with minimal chance of data corruption spreading.
 

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-06-15  6:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-06-11 14:22 [PATCH 0/5] [RFC] HWPOISON incremental fixes Wu Fengguang
2009-06-11 14:22 ` [PATCH 1/5] HWPOISON: define VM_FAULT_HWPOISON to 0 when feature is disabled Wu Fengguang
2009-06-11 15:44   ` Rik van Riel
2009-06-12 10:00   ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-12 13:15     ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-12 11:22   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-06-12 12:57     ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-12 13:17       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-06-12 13:33         ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-12 15:36           ` Ingo Molnar
2009-06-12 16:14             ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-12 18:07               ` Alan Cox
2009-06-12 17:55             ` Theodore Tso
2009-06-12 13:58         ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-12 15:28         ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-12 15:35           ` Ingo Molnar
2009-06-12 16:05             ` Rik van Riel
2009-06-12 16:37             ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-06-12 16:48               ` Ingo Molnar
2009-06-15  7:04               ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-15  6:52             ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2009-06-16 20:27               ` Russ Anderson
2009-06-17  7:51                 ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-12 15:45         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-06-12 16:12           ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-11 14:22 ` [PATCH 2/5] HWPOISON: fix tasklist_lock/anon_vma locking order Wu Fengguang
2009-06-11 15:59   ` Rik van Riel
2009-06-12 10:03   ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-12 10:07     ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-12 13:27     ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-12 14:04       ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-11 14:22 ` [PATCH 3/5] HWPOISON: remove early kill option for now Wu Fengguang
2009-06-11 16:06   ` Rik van Riel
2009-06-12  9:59   ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-11 14:22 ` [PATCH 4/5] HWPOISON: report sticky EIO for poisoned file Wu Fengguang
2009-06-11 16:31   ` Rik van Riel
2009-06-12 10:07   ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-12 13:41     ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-11 14:22 ` [PATCH 5/5] HWPOISON: use the safer invalidate page for possible metadata pages Wu Fengguang
2009-06-11 16:36   ` Rik van Riel
2009-06-12 10:56 ` [PATCH 0/5] [RFC] HWPOISON incremental fixes Andi Kleen
2009-06-12 13:59   ` Wu Fengguang

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