From: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
To: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
Hugh Dickins <hugh.dickins@tiscali.co.uk>,
Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>,
Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>,
"riel@redhat.com" <riel@redhat.com>,
"chris.mason@oracle.com" <chris.mason@oracle.com>,
"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/22] HWPOISON: Intro (v5)
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 17:24:28 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090615152427.GF31969@one.firstfloor.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090615154832.73c89733@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
> Everyone I knew in the business end of deploying Linux turned on panics
> for I/O errors, reboot on panic and all the rest of those.
oops=panic already implies panic on all machine check exceptions, so they will
be fine then (assuming this is the best strategy for availability
for them, which I personally find quite doubtful, but we can discuss this some
other time)
> Really - so if your design is wrong for the way PPC wants to work what
> are we going to do ? It's not a requirement that PPC64 support is there
Then we change the code. Or if it's too difficult don't support their stuff.
After all it's not cast in stone. That said I doubt the PPC requirements will
be much different than what we have.
> I'd guess that zSeries has some rather different views on how ECC
> failures propogate through the hypervisors for example, including the
> fact that a failed page can be unfailed which you don't seem to allow for.
That's correct.
That's because unpoisioning is quite hard -- you need some kind
of synchronization point for all the error handling and that's
the poisoned page and if it unposions itself then you need
some very heavy weight synchronization to avoid handling errors
multiple time. I looked at it, but it's quite messy.
Also it's of somewhat dubious value.
>
> (You can unfail pages on x86 as well it appears by scrubbing them via DMA
> - yes ?)
Not architectually. Also the other problem is not just unpoisoning them,
but finding out if the page is permenantly bad or just temporarily.
-Andi
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Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-06-15 2:45 [PATCH 00/22] HWPOISON: Intro (v5) Wu Fengguang
2009-06-15 2:45 ` [PATCH 01/22] HWPOISON: Add page flag for poisoned pages Wu Fengguang
2009-06-15 2:45 ` [PATCH 02/22] HWPOISON: Export some rmap vma locking to outside world Wu Fengguang
2009-06-15 2:45 ` [PATCH 03/22] HWPOISON: Add support for poison swap entries v2 Wu Fengguang
2009-06-15 2:45 ` [PATCH 04/22] HWPOISON: Add new SIGBUS error codes for hardware poison signals Wu Fengguang
2009-06-15 2:45 ` [PATCH 05/22] HWPOISON: Add basic support for poisoned pages in fault handler v3 Wu Fengguang
2009-06-15 2:45 ` [PATCH 06/22] HWPOISON: x86: Add VM_FAULT_HWPOISON handling to x86 page fault handler v2 Wu Fengguang
2009-06-15 2:45 ` [PATCH 07/22] HWPOISON: define VM_FAULT_HWPOISON to 0 when feature is disabled Wu Fengguang
2009-06-15 2:45 ` [PATCH 08/22] HWPOISON: Use bitmask/action code for try_to_unmap behaviour Wu Fengguang
2009-06-15 2:45 ` [PATCH 09/22] HWPOISON: Handle hardware poisoned pages in try_to_unmap Wu Fengguang
2009-06-15 13:09 ` Minchan Kim
2009-06-15 15:26 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-16 0:03 ` Minchan Kim
2009-06-16 13:49 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-17 0:28 ` Minchan Kim
2009-06-17 7:23 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-17 13:27 ` Minchan Kim
2009-06-17 13:37 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-17 13:43 ` Minchan Kim
2009-06-17 14:03 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-17 14:08 ` Minchan Kim
2009-06-17 14:12 ` Wu Fengguang
[not found] ` <28c262360906170644w65c08a8y2d2805fb08045804@mail.gmail.com>
[not found] ` <20090617135543.GA8079@localhost>
[not found] ` <28c262360906170703h3363b68dp74471358f647921e@mail.gmail.com>
2009-06-18 12:14 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-18 13:31 ` Minchan Kim
2009-06-19 1:58 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-15 2:45 ` [PATCH 10/22] HWPOISON: check and isolate corrupted free pages v2 Wu Fengguang
2009-06-15 9:41 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-06-15 10:16 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-15 23:52 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-06-16 0:34 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-16 11:29 ` Hugh Dickins
2009-06-16 11:40 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-15 2:45 ` [PATCH 11/22] HWPOISON: Refactor truncate to allow direct truncating of page v3 Wu Fengguang
2009-06-15 2:45 ` [PATCH 12/22] HWPOISON: The high level memory error handler in the VM v7 Wu Fengguang
2009-06-15 2:45 ` [PATCH 13/22] HWPOISON: Add madvise() based injector for hardware poisoned pages v3 Wu Fengguang
2009-06-15 2:45 ` [PATCH 14/22] HWPOISON: Add simple debugfs interface to inject hwpoison on arbitary PFNs Wu Fengguang
2009-06-15 2:45 ` [PATCH 15/22] HWPOISON: early kill cleanups and fixes Wu Fengguang
2009-06-15 2:45 ` [PATCH 16/22] mm: move page flag numbers for user space to page-flags.h Wu Fengguang
2009-06-15 2:45 ` [PATCH 17/22] HWPOISON: introduce struct hwpoison_control Wu Fengguang
2009-06-15 2:45 ` [PATCH 18/22] HWPOISON: use compound head page Wu Fengguang
2009-06-15 2:45 ` [PATCH 19/22] HWPOISON: detect free buddy pages explicitly Wu Fengguang
2009-06-15 2:45 ` [PATCH 20/22] HWPOISON: collect infos that reflect the impact of the memory corruption Wu Fengguang
2009-06-15 2:45 ` [PATCH 21/22] HWPOISON: send uevent to report " Wu Fengguang
2009-06-15 6:29 ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-15 9:56 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-16 0:35 ` Greg KH
2009-06-15 2:45 ` [PATCH 22/22] HWPOISON: FOR TESTING: Enable memory failure code unconditionally Wu Fengguang
2009-06-15 3:18 ` [PATCH 00/22] HWPOISON: Intro (v5) Balbir Singh
2009-06-15 4:27 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-15 6:44 ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-15 7:09 ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-15 7:19 ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-15 12:10 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-15 12:25 ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-15 14:22 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-17 6:37 ` [RFC][PATCH] HWPOISON: only early kill processes who installed SIGBUS handler Wu Fengguang
2009-06-17 8:04 ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-17 9:55 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-17 10:00 ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-17 11:56 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-18 9:56 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-15 8:14 ` [PATCH 00/22] HWPOISON: Intro (v5) Nick Piggin
2009-06-15 10:09 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-15 10:36 ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-15 11:41 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-15 12:51 ` Hugh Dickins
2009-06-15 13:00 ` Alan Cox
2009-06-15 13:29 ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-15 13:28 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-06-15 14:48 ` Alan Cox
2009-06-15 15:24 ` Andi Kleen [this message]
2009-06-15 15:28 ` Alan Cox
2009-06-15 16:19 ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-15 16:28 ` Alan Cox
2009-06-15 17:07 ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-16 19:44 ` Russ Anderson
2009-06-16 20:28 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-06-16 20:54 ` Russ Anderson
2009-06-16 20:58 ` H. Peter Anvin
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