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From: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
To: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	Hugh Dickins <hugh.dickins@tiscali.co.uk>,
	Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>,
	Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>,
	"riel@redhat.com" <riel@redhat.com>,
	"chris.mason@oracle.com" <chris.mason@oracle.com>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/22] HWPOISON: Intro (v5)
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 18:19:04 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090615161904.GH31969@one.firstfloor.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090615162804.4cb75b30@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>

On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 04:28:04PM +0100, Alan "zSeries" Cox wrote:

> 	curse a lot
> 	suspend to disk
> 	remove dirt from fans, clean/replace RAM
> 	resume from disk
> 
> The very act of making the ECC error not take out the box creates the

Ok so at least you agree now that handling these errors without 
panic is the right thing to do. That's at least some progress.

> environment whereby the underlying hardware error (if there was one) can
> be cured.

These ECC errors are still somewhat rare (or rather if they become
common you should definitely service the system). That is why
losing a single page of memory for them isn't a big issue normally.

Sure you could spend effort making unpoisioning work,
but it would seem very dubious to me. After all it's just another
4K of memory for each error. 

The only reasonably good use case I heard for unpoisoning was
if you have a lot of huge pages (you can't use a full huge page with one bad 
small page), but that's also still relatively exotic.

-Andi

[1] mostly you need a new special form of RCU I think

-- 
ak@linux.intel.com -- Speaking for myself only.

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  reply	other threads:[~2009-06-15 16:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-06-15  2:45 [PATCH 00/22] HWPOISON: Intro (v5) Wu Fengguang
2009-06-15  2:45 ` [PATCH 01/22] HWPOISON: Add page flag for poisoned pages Wu Fengguang
2009-06-15  2:45 ` [PATCH 02/22] HWPOISON: Export some rmap vma locking to outside world Wu Fengguang
2009-06-15  2:45 ` [PATCH 03/22] HWPOISON: Add support for poison swap entries v2 Wu Fengguang
2009-06-15  2:45 ` [PATCH 04/22] HWPOISON: Add new SIGBUS error codes for hardware poison signals Wu Fengguang
2009-06-15  2:45 ` [PATCH 05/22] HWPOISON: Add basic support for poisoned pages in fault handler v3 Wu Fengguang
2009-06-15  2:45 ` [PATCH 06/22] HWPOISON: x86: Add VM_FAULT_HWPOISON handling to x86 page fault handler v2 Wu Fengguang
2009-06-15  2:45 ` [PATCH 07/22] HWPOISON: define VM_FAULT_HWPOISON to 0 when feature is disabled Wu Fengguang
2009-06-15  2:45 ` [PATCH 08/22] HWPOISON: Use bitmask/action code for try_to_unmap behaviour Wu Fengguang
2009-06-15  2:45 ` [PATCH 09/22] HWPOISON: Handle hardware poisoned pages in try_to_unmap Wu Fengguang
2009-06-15 13:09   ` Minchan Kim
2009-06-15 15:26     ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-16  0:03       ` Minchan Kim
2009-06-16 13:49         ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-17  0:28           ` Minchan Kim
2009-06-17  7:23             ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-17 13:27               ` Minchan Kim
2009-06-17 13:37                 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-17 13:43                   ` Minchan Kim
2009-06-17 14:03                     ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-17 14:08                       ` Minchan Kim
2009-06-17 14:12                         ` Wu Fengguang
     [not found]               ` <28c262360906170644w65c08a8y2d2805fb08045804@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]                 ` <20090617135543.GA8079@localhost>
     [not found]                   ` <28c262360906170703h3363b68dp74471358f647921e@mail.gmail.com>
2009-06-18 12:14                     ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-18 13:31                       ` Minchan Kim
2009-06-19  1:58                         ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-15  2:45 ` [PATCH 10/22] HWPOISON: check and isolate corrupted free pages v2 Wu Fengguang
2009-06-15  9:41   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-06-15 10:16     ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-15 23:52       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-06-16  0:34         ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-16 11:29           ` Hugh Dickins
2009-06-16 11:40             ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-15  2:45 ` [PATCH 11/22] HWPOISON: Refactor truncate to allow direct truncating of page v3 Wu Fengguang
2009-06-15  2:45 ` [PATCH 12/22] HWPOISON: The high level memory error handler in the VM v7 Wu Fengguang
2009-06-15  2:45 ` [PATCH 13/22] HWPOISON: Add madvise() based injector for hardware poisoned pages v3 Wu Fengguang
2009-06-15  2:45 ` [PATCH 14/22] HWPOISON: Add simple debugfs interface to inject hwpoison on arbitary PFNs Wu Fengguang
2009-06-15  2:45 ` [PATCH 15/22] HWPOISON: early kill cleanups and fixes Wu Fengguang
2009-06-15  2:45 ` [PATCH 16/22] mm: move page flag numbers for user space to page-flags.h Wu Fengguang
2009-06-15  2:45 ` [PATCH 17/22] HWPOISON: introduce struct hwpoison_control Wu Fengguang
2009-06-15  2:45 ` [PATCH 18/22] HWPOISON: use compound head page Wu Fengguang
2009-06-15  2:45 ` [PATCH 19/22] HWPOISON: detect free buddy pages explicitly Wu Fengguang
2009-06-15  2:45 ` [PATCH 20/22] HWPOISON: collect infos that reflect the impact of the memory corruption Wu Fengguang
2009-06-15  2:45 ` [PATCH 21/22] HWPOISON: send uevent to report " Wu Fengguang
2009-06-15  6:29   ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-15  9:56     ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-16  0:35   ` Greg KH
2009-06-15  2:45 ` [PATCH 22/22] HWPOISON: FOR TESTING: Enable memory failure code unconditionally Wu Fengguang
2009-06-15  3:18 ` [PATCH 00/22] HWPOISON: Intro (v5) Balbir Singh
2009-06-15  4:27   ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-15  6:44     ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-15  7:09       ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-15  7:19         ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-15 12:10           ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-15 12:25             ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-15 14:22               ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-17  6:37                 ` [RFC][PATCH] HWPOISON: only early kill processes who installed SIGBUS handler Wu Fengguang
2009-06-17  8:04                   ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-17  9:55                     ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-17 10:00                       ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-17 11:56                         ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-18  9:56                     ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-15  8:14       ` [PATCH 00/22] HWPOISON: Intro (v5) Nick Piggin
2009-06-15 10:09         ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-15 10:36           ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-15 11:41             ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-15 12:51     ` Hugh Dickins
2009-06-15 13:00       ` Alan Cox
2009-06-15 13:29         ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-15 13:28           ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-06-15 14:48           ` Alan Cox
2009-06-15 15:24             ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-15 15:28               ` Alan Cox
2009-06-15 16:19                 ` Andi Kleen [this message]
2009-06-15 16:28                   ` Alan Cox
2009-06-15 17:07                     ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-16 19:44           ` Russ Anderson
2009-06-16 20:28             ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-06-16 20:54               ` Russ Anderson
2009-06-16 20:58                 ` H. Peter Anvin

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