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From: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>
To: Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
Cc: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	Hugh Dickins <hugh.dickins@tiscali.co.uk>,
	"riel@redhat.com" <riel@redhat.com>,
	"chris.mason@oracle.com" <chris.mason@oracle.com>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] HWPOISON: only early kill processes who installed SIGBUS handler
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 10:04:04 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090617080404.GB31192@wotan.suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090617063702.GA20922@localhost>

On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 02:37:02PM +0800, Wu Fengguang wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 10:22:25PM +0800, Wu Fengguang wrote:
> > On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 08:25:28PM +0800, Nick Piggin wrote:
> > > On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 08:10:01PM +0800, Wu Fengguang wrote:
> > > > On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 03:19:07PM +0800, Nick Piggin wrote:
> > > > > > For KVM you need early kill, for the others it remains to be seen.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Right. It's almost like you need to do a per-process thing, and
> > > > > those that can handle things (such as the new SIGBUS or the new
> > > > > EIO) could get those, and others could be killed.
> > > > 
> > > > To send early SIGBUS kills to processes who has called
> > > > sigaction(SIGBUS, ...)?  KVM will sure do that. For other apps we
> > > > don't mind they can understand that signal at all.
> > > 
> > > For apps that hook into SIGBUS for some other means and
> > 
> > Yes I was referring to the sigaction(SIGBUS) apps, others will
> > be late killed anyway.
> > 
> > > do not understand the new type of SIGBUS signal? What about
> > > those?
> > 
> > We introduced two new SIGBUS codes:
> >         BUS_MCEERR_AO=5         for early kill
> >         BUS_MCEERR_AR=4         for late  kill
> > I'd assume a legacy application will handle them in the same way (both
> > are unexpected code to the application).
> > 
> > We don't care whether the application can be killed by BUS_MCEERR_AO
> > or BUS_MCEERR_AR depending on its SIGBUS handler implementation.
> > But (in the rare case) if the handler
> > - refused to die on BUS_MCEERR_AR, it may create a busy loop and
> >   flooding of SIGBUS signals, which is a bug of the application.
> >   BUS_MCEERR_AO is one time and won't lead to busy loops.
> > - does something that hurts itself (ie. data safety) on BUS_MCEERR_AO,
> >   it may well hurt the same way on BUS_MCEERR_AR. The latter one is
> >   unavoidable, so the application must be fixed anyway.
> 
> This patch materializes the automatically early kill idea.
> It aims to remove the vm.memory_failure_ealy_kill sysctl parameter.
> 
> This is mainly a policy change, please comment.

Well then you can still early-kill random apps that did not
want it, and you may still cause problems if its sigbus
handler does something nontrivial.

Can you use a prctl or something so it can expclitly
register interest in this?

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  reply	other threads:[~2009-06-17  8:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-06-15  2:45 [PATCH 00/22] HWPOISON: Intro (v5) Wu Fengguang
2009-06-15  2:45 ` [PATCH 01/22] HWPOISON: Add page flag for poisoned pages Wu Fengguang
2009-06-15  2:45 ` [PATCH 02/22] HWPOISON: Export some rmap vma locking to outside world Wu Fengguang
2009-06-15  2:45 ` [PATCH 03/22] HWPOISON: Add support for poison swap entries v2 Wu Fengguang
2009-06-15  2:45 ` [PATCH 04/22] HWPOISON: Add new SIGBUS error codes for hardware poison signals Wu Fengguang
2009-06-15  2:45 ` [PATCH 05/22] HWPOISON: Add basic support for poisoned pages in fault handler v3 Wu Fengguang
2009-06-15  2:45 ` [PATCH 06/22] HWPOISON: x86: Add VM_FAULT_HWPOISON handling to x86 page fault handler v2 Wu Fengguang
2009-06-15  2:45 ` [PATCH 07/22] HWPOISON: define VM_FAULT_HWPOISON to 0 when feature is disabled Wu Fengguang
2009-06-15  2:45 ` [PATCH 08/22] HWPOISON: Use bitmask/action code for try_to_unmap behaviour Wu Fengguang
2009-06-15  2:45 ` [PATCH 09/22] HWPOISON: Handle hardware poisoned pages in try_to_unmap Wu Fengguang
2009-06-15 13:09   ` Minchan Kim
2009-06-15 15:26     ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-16  0:03       ` Minchan Kim
2009-06-16 13:49         ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-17  0:28           ` Minchan Kim
2009-06-17  7:23             ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-17 13:27               ` Minchan Kim
2009-06-17 13:37                 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-17 13:43                   ` Minchan Kim
2009-06-17 14:03                     ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-17 14:08                       ` Minchan Kim
2009-06-17 14:12                         ` Wu Fengguang
     [not found]               ` <28c262360906170644w65c08a8y2d2805fb08045804@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]                 ` <20090617135543.GA8079@localhost>
     [not found]                   ` <28c262360906170703h3363b68dp74471358f647921e@mail.gmail.com>
2009-06-18 12:14                     ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-18 13:31                       ` Minchan Kim
2009-06-19  1:58                         ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-15  2:45 ` [PATCH 10/22] HWPOISON: check and isolate corrupted free pages v2 Wu Fengguang
2009-06-15  9:41   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-06-15 10:16     ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-15 23:52       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-06-16  0:34         ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-16 11:29           ` Hugh Dickins
2009-06-16 11:40             ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-15  2:45 ` [PATCH 11/22] HWPOISON: Refactor truncate to allow direct truncating of page v3 Wu Fengguang
2009-06-15  2:45 ` [PATCH 12/22] HWPOISON: The high level memory error handler in the VM v7 Wu Fengguang
2009-06-15  2:45 ` [PATCH 13/22] HWPOISON: Add madvise() based injector for hardware poisoned pages v3 Wu Fengguang
2009-06-15  2:45 ` [PATCH 14/22] HWPOISON: Add simple debugfs interface to inject hwpoison on arbitary PFNs Wu Fengguang
2009-06-15  2:45 ` [PATCH 15/22] HWPOISON: early kill cleanups and fixes Wu Fengguang
2009-06-15  2:45 ` [PATCH 16/22] mm: move page flag numbers for user space to page-flags.h Wu Fengguang
2009-06-15  2:45 ` [PATCH 17/22] HWPOISON: introduce struct hwpoison_control Wu Fengguang
2009-06-15  2:45 ` [PATCH 18/22] HWPOISON: use compound head page Wu Fengguang
2009-06-15  2:45 ` [PATCH 19/22] HWPOISON: detect free buddy pages explicitly Wu Fengguang
2009-06-15  2:45 ` [PATCH 20/22] HWPOISON: collect infos that reflect the impact of the memory corruption Wu Fengguang
2009-06-15  2:45 ` [PATCH 21/22] HWPOISON: send uevent to report " Wu Fengguang
2009-06-15  6:29   ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-15  9:56     ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-16  0:35   ` Greg KH
2009-06-15  2:45 ` [PATCH 22/22] HWPOISON: FOR TESTING: Enable memory failure code unconditionally Wu Fengguang
2009-06-15  3:18 ` [PATCH 00/22] HWPOISON: Intro (v5) Balbir Singh
2009-06-15  4:27   ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-15  6:44     ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-15  7:09       ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-15  7:19         ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-15 12:10           ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-15 12:25             ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-15 14:22               ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-17  6:37                 ` [RFC][PATCH] HWPOISON: only early kill processes who installed SIGBUS handler Wu Fengguang
2009-06-17  8:04                   ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2009-06-17  9:55                     ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-17 10:00                       ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-17 11:56                         ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-18  9:56                     ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-15  8:14       ` [PATCH 00/22] HWPOISON: Intro (v5) Nick Piggin
2009-06-15 10:09         ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-15 10:36           ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-15 11:41             ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-15 12:51     ` Hugh Dickins
2009-06-15 13:00       ` Alan Cox
2009-06-15 13:29         ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-15 13:28           ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-06-15 14:48           ` Alan Cox
2009-06-15 15:24             ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-15 15:28               ` Alan Cox
2009-06-15 16:19                 ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-15 16:28                   ` Alan Cox
2009-06-15 17:07                     ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-16 19:44           ` Russ Anderson
2009-06-16 20:28             ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-06-16 20:54               ` Russ Anderson
2009-06-16 20:58                 ` H. Peter Anvin

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