From: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>
To: Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
Cc: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
Hugh Dickins <hugh.dickins@tiscali.co.uk>,
"riel@redhat.com" <riel@redhat.com>,
"chris.mason@oracle.com" <chris.mason@oracle.com>,
"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] HWPOISON: only early kill processes who installed SIGBUS handler
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 12:00:06 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090617100006.GC14915@wotan.suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090617095532.GA25001@localhost>
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 05:55:32PM +0800, Wu Fengguang wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 04:04:04PM +0800, Nick Piggin wrote:
> > Well then you can still early-kill random apps that did not
> > want it, and you may still cause problems if its sigbus
> > handler does something nontrivial.
> >
> > Can you use a prctl or something so it can expclitly
> > register interest in this?
>
> No I don't think prctl would be much better.
>
> - if an application want early/late kill, it can do so with a proper
> written SIGBUS handler: the prctl call is redundant.
s/proper written/is switched to new semantics based on the existance
of a/
> - if an admin want to control early/late kill for an unmodified app,
> prctl is as unhelpful as this patch(*).
Clearly you can execute a process with a given prctl.
> - prctl does can help legacy apps whose SIGBUS handler has trouble
> with the new SIGBUS codes, however such application should be rare
> and the application should be fixed(why shall it do something wrong
> on newly introduced code at all? Shall we stop introducing new codes
> just because some random buggy app cannot handle new codes?)
Backwards compatibility? Kind of important.
> So I still prefer this patch, until we come up with some solution that
> allows both app and admin to change the setting.
Not only does it allow that, but it also provides backwards
compatibility. Your patch does not allow admin to change
anything nor does it guarantee 100% back compat so I can't
see how you think it is better.
Also it does not allow for an app with a SIGBUS handler to
use late kill. If late kill is useful to anyone, why would
it not be useful to some app with a SIGBUS handler (that is
not KVM)?
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Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-06-15 2:45 [PATCH 00/22] HWPOISON: Intro (v5) Wu Fengguang
2009-06-15 2:45 ` [PATCH 01/22] HWPOISON: Add page flag for poisoned pages Wu Fengguang
2009-06-15 2:45 ` [PATCH 02/22] HWPOISON: Export some rmap vma locking to outside world Wu Fengguang
2009-06-15 2:45 ` [PATCH 03/22] HWPOISON: Add support for poison swap entries v2 Wu Fengguang
2009-06-15 2:45 ` [PATCH 04/22] HWPOISON: Add new SIGBUS error codes for hardware poison signals Wu Fengguang
2009-06-15 2:45 ` [PATCH 05/22] HWPOISON: Add basic support for poisoned pages in fault handler v3 Wu Fengguang
2009-06-15 2:45 ` [PATCH 06/22] HWPOISON: x86: Add VM_FAULT_HWPOISON handling to x86 page fault handler v2 Wu Fengguang
2009-06-15 2:45 ` [PATCH 07/22] HWPOISON: define VM_FAULT_HWPOISON to 0 when feature is disabled Wu Fengguang
2009-06-15 2:45 ` [PATCH 08/22] HWPOISON: Use bitmask/action code for try_to_unmap behaviour Wu Fengguang
2009-06-15 2:45 ` [PATCH 09/22] HWPOISON: Handle hardware poisoned pages in try_to_unmap Wu Fengguang
2009-06-15 13:09 ` Minchan Kim
2009-06-15 15:26 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-16 0:03 ` Minchan Kim
2009-06-16 13:49 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-17 0:28 ` Minchan Kim
2009-06-17 7:23 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-17 13:27 ` Minchan Kim
2009-06-17 13:37 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-17 13:43 ` Minchan Kim
2009-06-17 14:03 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-17 14:08 ` Minchan Kim
2009-06-17 14:12 ` Wu Fengguang
[not found] ` <28c262360906170644w65c08a8y2d2805fb08045804@mail.gmail.com>
[not found] ` <20090617135543.GA8079@localhost>
[not found] ` <28c262360906170703h3363b68dp74471358f647921e@mail.gmail.com>
2009-06-18 12:14 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-18 13:31 ` Minchan Kim
2009-06-19 1:58 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-15 2:45 ` [PATCH 10/22] HWPOISON: check and isolate corrupted free pages v2 Wu Fengguang
2009-06-15 9:41 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-06-15 10:16 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-15 23:52 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-06-16 0:34 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-16 11:29 ` Hugh Dickins
2009-06-16 11:40 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-15 2:45 ` [PATCH 11/22] HWPOISON: Refactor truncate to allow direct truncating of page v3 Wu Fengguang
2009-06-15 2:45 ` [PATCH 12/22] HWPOISON: The high level memory error handler in the VM v7 Wu Fengguang
2009-06-15 2:45 ` [PATCH 13/22] HWPOISON: Add madvise() based injector for hardware poisoned pages v3 Wu Fengguang
2009-06-15 2:45 ` [PATCH 14/22] HWPOISON: Add simple debugfs interface to inject hwpoison on arbitary PFNs Wu Fengguang
2009-06-15 2:45 ` [PATCH 15/22] HWPOISON: early kill cleanups and fixes Wu Fengguang
2009-06-15 2:45 ` [PATCH 16/22] mm: move page flag numbers for user space to page-flags.h Wu Fengguang
2009-06-15 2:45 ` [PATCH 17/22] HWPOISON: introduce struct hwpoison_control Wu Fengguang
2009-06-15 2:45 ` [PATCH 18/22] HWPOISON: use compound head page Wu Fengguang
2009-06-15 2:45 ` [PATCH 19/22] HWPOISON: detect free buddy pages explicitly Wu Fengguang
2009-06-15 2:45 ` [PATCH 20/22] HWPOISON: collect infos that reflect the impact of the memory corruption Wu Fengguang
2009-06-15 2:45 ` [PATCH 21/22] HWPOISON: send uevent to report " Wu Fengguang
2009-06-15 6:29 ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-15 9:56 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-16 0:35 ` Greg KH
2009-06-15 2:45 ` [PATCH 22/22] HWPOISON: FOR TESTING: Enable memory failure code unconditionally Wu Fengguang
2009-06-15 3:18 ` [PATCH 00/22] HWPOISON: Intro (v5) Balbir Singh
2009-06-15 4:27 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-15 6:44 ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-15 7:09 ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-15 7:19 ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-15 12:10 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-15 12:25 ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-15 14:22 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-17 6:37 ` [RFC][PATCH] HWPOISON: only early kill processes who installed SIGBUS handler Wu Fengguang
2009-06-17 8:04 ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-17 9:55 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-17 10:00 ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2009-06-17 11:56 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-18 9:56 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-15 8:14 ` [PATCH 00/22] HWPOISON: Intro (v5) Nick Piggin
2009-06-15 10:09 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-15 10:36 ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-15 11:41 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-15 12:51 ` Hugh Dickins
2009-06-15 13:00 ` Alan Cox
2009-06-15 13:29 ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-15 13:28 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-06-15 14:48 ` Alan Cox
2009-06-15 15:24 ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-15 15:28 ` Alan Cox
2009-06-15 16:19 ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-15 16:28 ` Alan Cox
2009-06-15 17:07 ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-16 19:44 ` Russ Anderson
2009-06-16 20:28 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-06-16 20:54 ` Russ Anderson
2009-06-16 20:58 ` H. Peter Anvin
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