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From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: Dan Magenheimer <dan.magenheimer@oracle.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, xen-devel@lists.xensource.com,
	npiggin@suse.de, chris.mason@oracle.com, kurt.hackel@oracle.com,
	dave.mccracken@oracle.com, Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>,
	jeremy@goop.org, Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk, Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
	Martin Schwidefsky <schwidefsky@de.ibm.com>,
	akpm@osdl.org, Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>,
	Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	tmem-devel@oss.oracle.com, sunil.mushran@oracle.com,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Himanshu Raj <rhim@microsoft.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC] transcendent memory for Linux
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 17:04:21 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090624150420.GH1784@ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cd40cd91-66e9-469d-b079-3a899a3ccadb@default>

Hi!

This description (whole mail) needs to go into Documentation/, somewhere. 

> Normal memory is directly addressable by the kernel,
> of a known normally-fixed size, synchronously accessible,
> and persistent (though not across a reboot).
...
> Transcendent memory, or "tmem" for short, provides a
> well-defined API to access this unusual class of memory.
> The basic operations are page-copy-based and use a flexible
> object-oriented addressing mechanism.  Tmem assumes

Should this API be documented, somewhere? Is it in-kernel API or does
userland see it?

> "Preswap" IS persistent, but for various reasons may not always
> be available for use, again due to factors that may not be
> visible to the kernel (but, briefly, if the kernel is being
> "good" and has shared its resources nicely, then it will be
> able to use preswap, else it will not).  Once a page is put,
> a get on the page will always succeed.  So when the kernel
> finds itself in a situation where it needs to swap out a page,
> it first attempts to use preswap.  If the put works, a disk
> write and (usually) a disk read are avoided.  If it doesn't,
> the page is written to swap as usual.  Unlike precache, whether

Ok, how much slower this gets in the worst case? Single hypercall to
find out that preswap is unavailable? I guess that compared to disk
access that's lost in the noise?
								Pavel

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-06-27 11:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-06-19 23:53 [RFC] transcendent memory for Linux Dan Magenheimer
2009-06-20  1:35 ` [RFC PATCH 0/4] transcendent memory ("tmem") " Dan Magenheimer
2009-06-20  1:35 ` [RFC PATCH 1/4] tmem: infrastructure for tmem layer Dan Magenheimer
2009-06-20  1:50   ` Rik van Riel
2009-06-20  1:35 ` [RFC PATCH 2/4] tmem: precache implementation (layered on tmem) Dan Magenheimer
2009-06-20  2:28   ` Rik van Riel
2009-06-20  1:36 ` [RFC PATCH 3/4] tmem: preswap " Dan Magenheimer
2009-06-20  1:36 ` [RFC PATCH 4/4] tmem: interface code for tmem on top of xen Dan Magenheimer
2009-06-22 11:27 ` [RFC] transcendent memory for Linux Martin Schwidefsky
2009-06-22 20:41   ` Dan Magenheimer
2009-06-22 14:31 ` Chris Friesen
2009-06-22 20:50   ` Dan Magenheimer
2009-06-24 15:04 ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2009-06-29 14:34   ` Dan Magenheimer
2009-06-29 20:36     ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-29 21:13       ` Dan Magenheimer
2009-06-29 21:23         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-06-29 21:57           ` Dan Magenheimer
2009-06-29 22:15             ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-06-30 21:21               ` Dan Magenheimer
2009-06-30 22:46                 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-07-01 23:02                   ` Dan Magenheimer
2009-07-01 23:31                     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-07-02  6:38                     ` Pavel Machek
2009-07-02 14:03                       ` Dan Magenheimer
2009-06-27 13:18 ` Linus Walleij
2009-06-28  7:42   ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-29 14:44   ` Dan Magenheimer
2009-07-01  3:41     ` Roland Dreier

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