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From: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>
To: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
Cc: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
	Pekka J Enberg <penberg@cs.helsinki.fi>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mingo@elte.hu,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, cl@linux-foundation.org,
	torvalds@linux-foundation.org, "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] slab,slub: ignore __GFP_WAIT if we're booting or suspending
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 06:34:32 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090625043432.GA23949@wotan.suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1245576665.16880.24.camel@pasglop>

On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 07:31:05PM +1000, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
> 
> > > Right, that might be something to look into, though we haven't yet
> > > applied the technique for suspend & resume. My main issue with it at the
> > > moment is how do I synchronize with allocations that are already
> > > sleeping when changing the gfp flag mask without bloating the normal
> > 
> > Well, but the problem already exists, no? If someone is already
> > sleeping due to __GFP_WAIT, he'll probably sleep till the resume.
> 
> Yes. In fact, without the masking, a driver that hasn't been suspended
> yet could well start sleeping in GFP_KERNEL after the disk driver has
> suspended. It may do so while holding a mutex or similar, which might
> deadlock its own suspend() callback. It's not something that drivers can
> trivially address by having a pre-suspend hook, and avoid allocations,
> since allocations may be done by subsystems on behalf of the driver or
> such. It's a can of worms, which is why I believe the only sane approach
> is to stop allocators from doing IOs once we start suspend.

Maybe so. Masking off __GFP_WAIT up in slab and page allocator
isn't really needed though (or necessarily a good idea to throw
out that information far from where it is used).

Checking for suspend active and avoiding writeout from reclaim
for example might be a better idea.

 
> So yes, just applying the mask would help, but wouldn't completely fix
> it unless we also find a way to synchronize.

You could potentially use srcu or something like that in page
reclaim in order to have a way to be able to kick everyone
out. page reclaim entry/exit from the page allocator isn't such
a fastpath though, so even a simple mutex or something may be
possible.

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  reply	other threads:[~2009-06-25  4:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-06-12  8:13 [PATCH 2/2] slab,slub: ignore __GFP_WAIT if we're booting or suspending Pekka J Enberg
2009-06-12  9:03 ` [PATCH v2] " Pekka J Enberg
2009-06-12  9:10   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-06-12  9:21     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-06-12  9:24       ` Pekka Enberg
2009-06-12  9:36         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-06-12  9:45           ` Pekka J Enberg
2009-06-12  9:58             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-06-12 10:00               ` Pekka Enberg
2009-06-12 15:22             ` Andrew Morton
2009-06-12  9:49     ` Pekka Enberg
2009-06-12  9:52       ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-12  9:54         ` Pekka Enberg
2009-06-12  9:59         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-06-25  4:38           ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-12 10:07       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-06-12 10:11         ` Pekka Enberg
2009-06-12 10:15           ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-12 10:30             ` Pekka J Enberg
2009-06-12 10:32               ` Pekka Enberg
2009-06-12 15:16               ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-12 15:16                 ` Pekka Enberg
2009-06-12 11:13             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-06-12 11:24               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-06-12 11:11           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-06-12 11:34             ` Pekka Enberg
2009-06-12 11:41               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-06-12 11:43                 ` Pekka Enberg
2009-06-12 15:30               ` Andrew Morton
2009-06-12 21:42                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-06-25  4:41                 ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-12 11:09         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-06-12 15:04   ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-12 15:05     ` Pekka Enberg
2009-06-19 14:59   ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-19 22:27     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-06-19 23:23       ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-19 23:50         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-06-20  0:28           ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-20  2:10             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-06-21  6:18               ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-21  9:31                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-06-25  4:34                   ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2009-06-25  9:56                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt

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