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From: Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
To: Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>
Cc: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@linux-foundation.org>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 5/5] add NR_ANON_PAGES to OOM log
Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 23:16:28 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090705151628.GA11307@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <28c262360907050804p70bc293uc7330a6d968c0486@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Jul 05, 2009 at 11:04:17PM +0800, Minchan Kim wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 5, 2009 at 10:19 PM, KOSAKI
> Motohiro<kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com> wrote:
> >>> > > + printk("%ld total anon pages\n", global_page_state(NR_ANON_PAGES));
> >>> > > A  printk("%ld total pagecache pages\n", global_page_state(NR_FILE_PAGES));
> >>> >
> >>> > Can we put related items together, ie. this looks more friendly:
> >>> >
> >>> > A  A  A  A  Anon:XXX active_anon:XXX inactive_anon:XXX
> >>> > A  A  A  A  File:XXX active_file:XXX inactive_file:XXX
> >>>
> >>> hmmm. Actually NR_ACTIVE_ANON + NR_INACTIVE_ANON != NR_ANON_PAGES.
> >>> tmpfs pages are accounted as FILE, but it is stay in anon lru.
> >>
> >> Right, that's exactly the reason I propose to put them together: to
> >> make the number of tmpfs pages obvious.
> >>
> >>> I think your proposed format easily makes confusion. this format cause to
> >>> imazine Anon = active_anon + inactive_anon.
> >>
> >> Yes it may confuse normal users :(
> >>
> >>> At least, we need to use another name, I think.
> >>
> >> Hmm I find it hard to work out a good name.
> >>
> >> But instead, it may be a good idea to explicitly compute the tmpfs
> >> pages, because the excessive use of tmpfs pages could be a common
> >> reason of OOM.
> >
> > Yeah, A explicite tmpfs/shmem accounting is also useful for /proc/meminfo.
> 
> Do we have to account it explicitly?

When OOM happens, one frequent question to ask is: are there too many
tmpfs/shmem pages?  Exporting this number makes our oom-message-decoding
life easier :)

> If we know the exact isolate pages of each lru,
> 
> tmpfs/shmem = (NR_ACTIVE_ANON + NR_INACTIVE_ANON + isolate(anon)) -
> NR_ANON_PAGES.
> 
> Is there any cases above equation is wrong ?

That's right, but the calculation may be too complex (and boring) for
our little brain ;)

Thanks,
Fengguang

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  reply	other threads:[~2009-07-05 17:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-07-05  9:22 [PATCH 0/5] OOM analysis helper patches KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-07-05  9:23 ` [PATCH 1/5] add per-zone statistics to show_free_areas() KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-07-05 11:05   ` Wu Fengguang
2009-07-05 11:09     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-07-05 11:14       ` Wu Fengguang
2009-07-07 16:33   ` Christoph Lameter
2009-07-05  9:24 ` [PATCH 2/5] add buffer cache information " KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-07-05 11:21   ` Wu Fengguang
2009-07-05 11:31     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-07-05 12:07       ` Wu Fengguang
2009-07-05 14:16   ` Minchan Kim
2009-07-06  4:24     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-07-05  9:24 ` [PATCH 3/5] Show kernel stack usage to /proc/meminfo and OOM log KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-07-07 16:37   ` Christoph Lameter
2009-07-09  2:13     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-07-09 21:00       ` Christoph Lameter
2009-07-05  9:25 ` [PATCH 4/5] add isolate pages vmstat KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-07-05 12:10   ` Wu Fengguang
2009-07-05 12:23     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-07-05 14:51       ` Minchan Kim
2009-07-06  9:28         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-07-06 11:55           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-07-07  0:01             ` Minchan Kim
2009-07-07  0:07               ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-07-07  1:19                 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-07-07  1:48                   ` Minchan Kim
2009-07-07  2:12                     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-07-07  2:31                       ` Minchan Kim
2009-07-07  3:02                     ` Rik van Riel
2009-07-07 13:51                   ` Wu Fengguang
2009-07-07 16:49                   ` Christoph Lameter
2009-07-07 17:23                     ` Rik van Riel
2009-07-07 23:32                       ` Christoph Lameter
2009-07-09  2:19                     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-07-09 21:00                       ` Christoph Lameter
2009-07-07 16:46   ` Christoph Lameter
2009-07-08  1:44     ` Wu Fengguang
2009-07-05  9:26 ` [PATCH 5/5] add NR_ANON_PAGES to OOM log KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-07-05 12:13   ` Wu Fengguang
2009-07-05 12:21     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-07-05 13:02       ` Wu Fengguang
2009-07-05 13:19         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-07-05 15:04           ` Minchan Kim
2009-07-05 15:16             ` Wu Fengguang [this message]
2009-07-05 15:27               ` Minchan Kim
2009-07-07 16:53                 ` Christoph Lameter
2009-07-09  5:50                   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-07-09  7:20                     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-07-09 10:27                       ` Minchan Kim
2009-07-07  1:22         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-07-07 10:54           ` Wu Fengguang
2009-07-07 13:56           ` Wu Fengguang
2009-07-09  5:13             ` KOSAKI Motohiro

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