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From: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>
To: Chris Mason <chris.mason@oracle.com>
Cc: kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Eric Sandeen <sandeen@redhat.com>,
	xfs mailing list <xfs@oss.sgi.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Olaf Weber <olaf@sgi.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] bump up nr_to_write in xfs_vm_writepage
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 16:12:15 +0900 (JST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090710153349.17EC.A69D9226@jp.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090709130134.GH18008@think>

> On Thu, Jul 09, 2009 at 11:04:32AM +0900, KOSAKI Motohiro wrote:
> > > On Tue, Jul 07, 2009 at 07:33:04PM +0900, KOSAKI Motohiro wrote:
> > > > At least, I agree with Olaf. if you got someone's NAK in past thread,
> > > > Could you please tell me its url?
> > > 
> > > The previous thread was simply dead-ended and nothing happened.
> > > 
> > 
> > Can you remember this thread subject? sorry, I haven't remember it.
> 
> This is the original thread, it did lead to a few different patches
> going in, but the nr_to_write change wasn't one of them.
> 
> http://kerneltrap.org/mailarchive/linux-kernel/2008/10/1/3472704/thread

Thanks good pointer. This thread have multiple interesting discussion.

1. making ext4_write_cache_pages() or modifying write_cache_pages()

I think this is Christoph's homework. he said

> I agree.  But I'm still not quite sure if that requirement is unique to
> ext4 anyway.  Give me some time to dive into the writeback code again,
> haven't been there for quite a while.

if he says modifying write_cache_pages() is necessary, I'd like to review it.


2. Current mapping->writeback_index updating is not proper?

I'm not sure which solution is better. but I think your first proposal is
enough acceptable.


3. Current wbc->nr_to_write value is not proper?

Current writeback_set_ratelimit() doesn't permit that ratelimit_pages exceed
4M byte. but it is too low restriction for nowadays.
(that's my understand. right?)

=======================================================
void writeback_set_ratelimit(void)
{
        ratelimit_pages = vm_total_pages / (num_online_cpus() * 32);
        if (ratelimit_pages < 16)
                ratelimit_pages = 16;
        if (ratelimit_pages * PAGE_CACHE_SIZE > 4096 * 1024)
                ratelimit_pages = (4096 * 1024) / PAGE_CACHE_SIZE;
}
=======================================================

Yes, 4M bytes are pretty magical constant. We have three choice
  A. Remove magical 4M constant simple (a bit danger)
  B. Decide high border from IO capability
  C. Introduce new /proc knob (as Olaf proposed)


In my personal prefer, B & C are better.



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  reply	other threads:[~2009-07-10  6:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-07-02 21:29 [PATCH] bump up nr_to_write in xfs_vm_writepage Eric Sandeen
2009-07-07  9:07 ` Olaf Weber
2009-07-07 10:19   ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-07-07 10:33     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-07-07 10:44       ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-07-09  2:04         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-07-09 13:01           ` Chris Mason
2009-07-10  7:12             ` KOSAKI Motohiro [this message]
2009-07-24  5:20               ` Felix Blyakher
2009-07-24  5:33                 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-07-24 12:05                 ` Chris Mason
2009-07-07 11:37     ` Olaf Weber
2009-07-07 14:46       ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-07-07 15:17 ` Chris Mason

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