From: Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Cc: Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>,
Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
"Dike, Jeffrey G" <jeffrey.g.dike@intel.com>,
"Yu, Wilfred" <wilfred.yu@intel.com>,
"Kleen, Andi" <andi.kleen@intel.com>,
Hugh Dickins <hugh.dickins@tiscali.co.uk>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Christoph Lameter <cl@linux-foundation.org>,
KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC] respect the referenced bit of KVM guest pages?
Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 18:05:04 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090805160504.GD23385@random.random> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4A793B92.9040204@redhat.com>
On Wed, Aug 05, 2009 at 10:58:10AM +0300, Avi Kivity wrote:
> How do you distinguish between kvm pages and non-kvm anonymous pages?
> More importantly, why should you?
It can't distinguish. Besides the pages being refaulted (as minor
faults) implies they weren't collected yet. So the fact they are
allowed to stay on active list or not can't matter or alter the
refaulting issue.
> Jeff, do you see the refaults on Nehalem systems? If so, that's likely
> due to the lack of an accessed bit on EPT pagetables. It would be
> interesting to compare with Barcelona (which does).
It seems it wasn't using EPT.
Refaulting as minor faults, still possible w/ or w/o EPT and young
bit... when young bit is found not set, we just unmap the spte/pte and
we leave the page in lru for a while until it is collected. So it can
be refaulted even with young bit perfectly functional in spte and pte.
But the _whole_ point of NPT young bit (shame on EPT) and in pte, is
to try not to unmap the pagetables to get the aging information. So
there's a one more pass with young bit functional compared to without
young bit functional, but it doesn't mean that when young bit is clear
at second pass we immediately free the page, just we go into the
"refaulting lru cache waiting to be collected". And if the page isn't
actually collected it doesn't matter if it's in active or inactive
list, so patch can't matter if it's ""minor"" refaults what we're
talking about here :).
--
To unsubscribe, send a message with 'unsubscribe linux-mm' in
the body to majordomo@kvack.org. For more info on Linux MM,
see: http://www.linux-mm.org/ .
Don't email: <a href=mailto:"dont@kvack.org"> email@kvack.org </a>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-08-05 16:05 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 122+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-08-05 2:40 [RFC] respect the referenced bit of KVM guest pages? Wu Fengguang
2009-08-05 4:15 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-08-05 4:41 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-08-05 7:58 ` Avi Kivity
2009-08-05 8:17 ` Avi Kivity
2009-08-05 14:33 ` Rik van Riel
2009-08-05 15:37 ` Avi Kivity
2009-08-05 14:15 ` Rik van Riel
2009-08-05 15:12 ` Avi Kivity
2009-08-05 15:15 ` Rik van Riel
2009-08-05 15:25 ` Avi Kivity
2009-08-05 16:35 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-08-05 16:31 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-08-05 17:25 ` Rik van Riel
2009-08-05 15:45 ` Dike, Jeffrey G
2009-08-05 16:05 ` Andrea Arcangeli [this message]
2009-08-05 16:12 ` Dike, Jeffrey G
2009-08-05 16:19 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-08-05 15:58 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-08-05 17:20 ` Rik van Riel
2009-08-05 17:42 ` Rik van Riel
2009-08-06 10:15 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-08-06 10:08 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-08-06 10:18 ` Avi Kivity
2009-08-06 10:20 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-08-06 10:59 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-08-06 11:44 ` Avi Kivity
2009-08-06 13:06 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-08-06 13:16 ` Rik van Riel
2009-08-16 3:28 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-08-16 3:56 ` Rik van Riel
2009-08-16 4:43 ` Balbir Singh
2009-08-16 4:55 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-08-16 5:59 ` Balbir Singh
2009-08-17 19:47 ` Dike, Jeffrey G
2009-08-21 18:24 ` Balbir Singh
2009-08-31 19:43 ` Dike, Jeffrey G
2009-08-31 19:52 ` Rik van Riel
2009-08-31 20:06 ` Dike, Jeffrey G
2009-08-31 20:09 ` Rik van Riel
2009-08-31 20:11 ` Dike, Jeffrey G
2009-08-31 20:42 ` Balbir Singh
2009-08-06 13:46 ` Avi Kivity
2009-08-06 21:09 ` Jeff Dike
2009-08-16 3:18 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-08-16 3:53 ` Rik van Riel
2009-08-16 5:15 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-08-16 11:29 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-08-17 14:33 ` Minchan Kim
2009-08-18 2:34 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-08-18 4:17 ` Minchan Kim
2009-08-18 9:31 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-08-18 9:52 ` Minchan Kim
2009-08-18 10:00 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-08-18 11:00 ` Minchan Kim
2009-08-18 11:11 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-08-18 14:03 ` Minchan Kim
2009-08-18 16:27 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-08-18 15:57 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-08-19 12:01 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-08-19 12:05 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-08-19 12:10 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-08-19 12:25 ` Minchan Kim
2009-08-19 13:19 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-08-19 13:28 ` Minchan Kim
2009-08-21 11:17 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-08-19 13:24 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-08-19 13:38 ` Minchan Kim
2009-08-19 14:00 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-08-06 13:13 ` Rik van Riel
2009-08-06 13:49 ` Avi Kivity
2009-08-07 3:11 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-08-07 7:54 ` Balbir Singh
2009-08-07 8:24 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-08-06 13:11 ` Rik van Riel
2009-08-06 13:08 ` Rik van Riel
2009-08-07 3:17 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-08-12 7:48 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-08-12 14:31 ` Rik van Riel
2009-08-13 1:03 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-08-13 15:46 ` Rik van Riel
2009-08-13 16:12 ` Avi Kivity
2009-08-13 16:26 ` Rik van Riel
2009-08-13 19:12 ` Avi Kivity
2009-08-13 21:16 ` Johannes Weiner
2009-08-14 7:16 ` Avi Kivity
2009-08-14 9:10 ` Johannes Weiner
2009-08-14 9:51 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-08-14 13:19 ` Rik van Riel
2009-08-15 5:45 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-08-16 5:09 ` Balbir Singh
2009-08-16 5:41 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-08-16 5:50 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-08-18 15:57 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-08-17 18:04 ` Dike, Jeffrey G
2009-08-18 2:26 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-09-02 19:30 ` Dike, Jeffrey G
2009-09-03 2:04 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-09-04 20:06 ` Dike, Jeffrey G
2009-09-04 20:57 ` Rik van Riel
2009-08-18 15:57 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-08-19 12:08 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-08-19 13:40 ` [RFC] memcg: move definitions to .h and inline some functions Wu Fengguang
2009-08-19 14:18 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-08-19 14:27 ` Balbir Singh
2009-08-20 1:34 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-08-14 21:42 ` [RFC] respect the referenced bit of KVM guest pages? Dike, Jeffrey G
2009-08-14 22:37 ` Rik van Riel
2009-08-15 5:32 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-09-13 16:23 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-08-05 17:53 ` Rik van Riel
2009-08-05 19:00 ` Dike, Jeffrey G
2009-08-05 19:07 ` Rik van Riel
2009-08-05 19:18 ` Dike, Jeffrey G
2009-08-06 9:22 ` Avi Kivity
2009-08-06 9:25 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-08-06 9:35 ` Avi Kivity
2009-08-06 9:35 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-08-06 9:59 ` Avi Kivity
2009-08-06 9:59 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-08-06 10:14 ` Avi Kivity
2009-08-07 1:25 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=20090805160504.GD23385@random.random \
--to=aarcange@redhat.com \
--cc=akpm@linux-foundation.org \
--cc=andi.kleen@intel.com \
--cc=avi@redhat.com \
--cc=cl@linux-foundation.org \
--cc=fengguang.wu@intel.com \
--cc=hugh.dickins@tiscali.co.uk \
--cc=jeffrey.g.dike@intel.com \
--cc=kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com \
--cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=linux-mm@kvack.org \
--cc=mel@csn.ul.ie \
--cc=riel@redhat.com \
--cc=wilfred.yu@intel.com \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).