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From: Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
To: Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>, Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>,
	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	"Dike, Jeffrey G" <jeffrey.g.dike@intel.com>,
	"Yu, Wilfred" <wilfred.yu@intel.com>,
	"Kleen, Andi" <andi.kleen@intel.com>,
	Hugh Dickins <hugh.dickins@tiscali.co.uk>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@linux-foundation.org>,
	Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC] respect the referenced bit of KVM guest pages?
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 13:41:07 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090816054107.GA15320@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090816050902.GR5087@balbir.in.ibm.com>

On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 01:09:03PM +0800, Balbir Singh wrote:
> * Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com> [2009-08-15 13:45:24]:
> 
> > On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 09:19:35PM +0800, Rik van Riel wrote:
> > > Wu Fengguang wrote:
> > > > On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 05:10:55PM +0800, Johannes Weiner wrote:
> > > 
> > > >> So even with the active list being a FIFO, we keep usage information
> > > >> gathered from the inactive list.  If we deactivate pages in arbitrary
> > > >> list intervals, we throw this away.
> > > > 
> > > > We do have the danger of FIFO, if inactive list is small enough, so
> > > > that (unconditionally) deactivated pages quickly get reclaimed and
> > > > their life window in inactive list is too small to be useful.
> > > 
> > > This one of the reasons why we unconditionally deactivate
> > > the active anon pages, and do background scanning of the
> > > active anon list when reclaiming page cache pages.
> > > 
> > > We want to always move some pages to the inactive anon
> > > list, so it does not get too small.
> > 
> > Right, the current code tries to pull inactive list out of
> > smallish-size state as long as there are vmscan activities.
> > 
> > However there is a possible (and tricky) hole: mem cgroups
> > don't do batched vmscan. shrink_zone() may call shrink_list()
> > with nr_to_scan=1, in which case shrink_list() _still_ calls
> > isolate_pages() with the much larger SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX.
> > 
> > It effectively scales up the inactive list scan rate by 10 times when
> > it is still small, and may thus prevent it from growing up for ever.
> > 
> 
> I think we need to possibly export some scanning data under DEBUG_VM
> to cross verify.

Maybe we can do more general debugging code, but here is a quick patch
for examining the cgroup case. Note that even for the global zones,
max_scan may well not be the multiple of SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX, thus
shrink_inactive_list() will scan a little more in its last loop.

---
 mm/vmscan.c |    7 +++++++
 1 file changed, 7 insertions(+)

--- linux.orig/mm/vmscan.c	2009-08-16 13:24:25.000000000 +0800
+++ linux/mm/vmscan.c	2009-08-16 13:38:32.000000000 +0800
@@ -1043,6 +1043,13 @@ static unsigned long shrink_inactive_lis
 	struct zone_reclaim_stat *reclaim_stat = get_reclaim_stat(zone, sc);
 	int lumpy_reclaim = 0;
 
+	if (!scanning_global_lru(sc))
+		printk("shrink inactive %s count=%lu scan=%lu\n",
+		       file ? "file" : "anon",
+		       mem_cgroup_zone_nr_pages(sc->mem_cgroup, zone,
+						LRU_INACTIVE_ANON + !!file),
+		       max_scan);
+
 	/*
 	 * If we need a large contiguous chunk of memory, or have
 	 * trouble getting a small set of contiguous pages, we

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  reply	other threads:[~2009-08-16  5:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 122+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-08-05  2:40 [RFC] respect the referenced bit of KVM guest pages? Wu Fengguang
2009-08-05  4:15 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-08-05  4:41   ` Wu Fengguang
2009-08-05  7:58 ` Avi Kivity
2009-08-05  8:17   ` Avi Kivity
2009-08-05 14:33     ` Rik van Riel
2009-08-05 15:37       ` Avi Kivity
2009-08-05 14:15   ` Rik van Riel
2009-08-05 15:12     ` Avi Kivity
2009-08-05 15:15       ` Rik van Riel
2009-08-05 15:25         ` Avi Kivity
2009-08-05 16:35           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-08-05 16:31     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-08-05 17:25       ` Rik van Riel
2009-08-05 15:45   ` Dike, Jeffrey G
2009-08-05 16:05   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-08-05 16:12     ` Dike, Jeffrey G
2009-08-05 16:19       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-08-05 15:58 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-08-05 17:20   ` Rik van Riel
2009-08-05 17:42   ` Rik van Riel
2009-08-06 10:15     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-08-06 10:08   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-08-06 10:18     ` Avi Kivity
2009-08-06 10:20       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-08-06 10:59         ` Wu Fengguang
2009-08-06 11:44           ` Avi Kivity
2009-08-06 13:06             ` Wu Fengguang
2009-08-06 13:16               ` Rik van Riel
2009-08-16  3:28                 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-08-16  3:56                   ` Rik van Riel
2009-08-16  4:43                     ` Balbir Singh
2009-08-16  4:55                     ` Wu Fengguang
2009-08-16  5:59                       ` Balbir Singh
2009-08-17 19:47                       ` Dike, Jeffrey G
2009-08-21 18:24                         ` Balbir Singh
2009-08-31 19:43                           ` Dike, Jeffrey G
2009-08-31 19:52                             ` Rik van Riel
2009-08-31 20:06                               ` Dike, Jeffrey G
2009-08-31 20:09                                 ` Rik van Riel
2009-08-31 20:11                                   ` Dike, Jeffrey G
2009-08-31 20:42                                     ` Balbir Singh
2009-08-06 13:46               ` Avi Kivity
2009-08-06 21:09               ` Jeff Dike
2009-08-16  3:18                 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-08-16  3:53                   ` Rik van Riel
2009-08-16  5:15                     ` Wu Fengguang
2009-08-16 11:29                       ` Wu Fengguang
2009-08-17 14:33                         ` Minchan Kim
2009-08-18  2:34                           ` Wu Fengguang
2009-08-18  4:17                             ` Minchan Kim
2009-08-18  9:31                               ` Wu Fengguang
2009-08-18  9:52                                 ` Minchan Kim
2009-08-18 10:00                                   ` Wu Fengguang
2009-08-18 11:00                                     ` Minchan Kim
2009-08-18 11:11                                       ` Wu Fengguang
2009-08-18 14:03                                         ` Minchan Kim
2009-08-18 16:27                                         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-08-18 15:57                         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-08-19 12:01                           ` Wu Fengguang
2009-08-19 12:05                             ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-08-19 12:10                               ` Wu Fengguang
2009-08-19 12:25                                 ` Minchan Kim
2009-08-19 13:19                                   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-08-19 13:28                                     ` Minchan Kim
2009-08-21 11:17                                       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-08-19 13:24                                   ` Wu Fengguang
2009-08-19 13:38                                     ` Minchan Kim
2009-08-19 14:00                                       ` Wu Fengguang
2009-08-06 13:13             ` Rik van Riel
2009-08-06 13:49               ` Avi Kivity
2009-08-07  3:11               ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-08-07  7:54                 ` Balbir Singh
2009-08-07  8:24                   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-08-06 13:11           ` Rik van Riel
2009-08-06 13:08     ` Rik van Riel
2009-08-07  3:17       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-08-12  7:48         ` Wu Fengguang
2009-08-12 14:31           ` Rik van Riel
2009-08-13  1:03             ` Wu Fengguang
2009-08-13 15:46               ` Rik van Riel
2009-08-13 16:12                 ` Avi Kivity
2009-08-13 16:26                   ` Rik van Riel
2009-08-13 19:12                     ` Avi Kivity
2009-08-13 21:16                       ` Johannes Weiner
2009-08-14  7:16                         ` Avi Kivity
2009-08-14  9:10                           ` Johannes Weiner
2009-08-14  9:51                             ` Wu Fengguang
2009-08-14 13:19                               ` Rik van Riel
2009-08-15  5:45                                 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-08-16  5:09                                   ` Balbir Singh
2009-08-16  5:41                                     ` Wu Fengguang [this message]
2009-08-16  5:50                                     ` Wu Fengguang
2009-08-18 15:57                                     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-08-17 18:04                                   ` Dike, Jeffrey G
2009-08-18  2:26                                     ` Wu Fengguang
2009-09-02 19:30                                       ` Dike, Jeffrey G
2009-09-03  2:04                                         ` Wu Fengguang
2009-09-04 20:06                                           ` Dike, Jeffrey G
2009-09-04 20:57                                             ` Rik van Riel
2009-08-18 15:57                                   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-08-19 12:08                                     ` Wu Fengguang
2009-08-19 13:40                                     ` [RFC] memcg: move definitions to .h and inline some functions Wu Fengguang
2009-08-19 14:18                                       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-08-19 14:27                                         ` Balbir Singh
2009-08-20  1:34                                           ` Wu Fengguang
2009-08-14 21:42                               ` [RFC] respect the referenced bit of KVM guest pages? Dike, Jeffrey G
2009-08-14 22:37                                 ` Rik van Riel
2009-08-15  5:32                                   ` Wu Fengguang
2009-09-13 16:23                                 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-08-05 17:53 ` Rik van Riel
2009-08-05 19:00   ` Dike, Jeffrey G
2009-08-05 19:07     ` Rik van Riel
2009-08-05 19:18       ` Dike, Jeffrey G
2009-08-06  9:22         ` Avi Kivity
2009-08-06  9:25           ` Wu Fengguang
2009-08-06  9:35             ` Avi Kivity
2009-08-06  9:35               ` Wu Fengguang
2009-08-06  9:59                 ` Avi Kivity
2009-08-06  9:59                   ` Wu Fengguang
2009-08-06 10:14                     ` Avi Kivity
2009-08-07  1:25                       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki

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