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From: Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	"minchan.kim@gmail.com" <minchan.kim@gmail.com>,
	cl@linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] asynchronous page fault.
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 15:24:41 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20091229095441.GP3601@balbir.in.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1261989173.7135.5.camel@laptop>

* Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> [2009-12-28 09:32:53]:

> On Mon, 2009-12-28 at 06:27 +0530, Balbir Singh wrote:
> > * Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> [2009-12-27 12:19:56]:
> > 
> > > Your changelog states as much.
> > > 
> > > "Even if RB-tree rotation occurs while we walk tree for look-up, we just
> > > miss vma without oops."
> > > 
> > > However, since this is the case, do we still need the
> > > rcu_assign_pointer() conversion your patch does? All I can see it do is
> > > slow down all RB-tree users, without any gain.
> > 
> > Don't we need the rcu_assign_pointer() on the read side primarily to
> > make sure the pointer is still valid and assignments (writes) are not
> > re-ordered? Are you suggesting that the pointer assignment paths be
> > completely atomic?
> 
> rcu_assign_pointer() is the write side, but if you need a barrier, you
> can make do with a single smp_wmb() after doing the rb-tree op. There is
> no need to add multiple in the tree-ops themselves.
>

Yes, that makes sense.
 
> You cannot make the assignment paths atomic (without locks) that's the
> whole problem.
>

True, but pre-emption can be nasty in some cases. But I am no expert
in the atomicity of operations like assignments across architectures.
I assume all word, long assignments are.

-- 
	Balbir

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  reply	other threads:[~2009-12-29  9:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-12-25  1:51 [RFC PATCH] asynchronous page fault KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-12-27  9:47 ` Minchan Kim
2009-12-27 23:59   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-12-27 11:19 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-12-28  0:00   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-12-28  0:57   ` Balbir Singh
2009-12-28  1:05     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-12-28  2:58       ` Balbir Singh
2009-12-28  3:13         ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-12-28  8:34         ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-12-28  8:32     ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-12-29  9:54       ` Balbir Singh [this message]
2009-12-27 12:03 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-12-28  0:36   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-12-28  1:19     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-12-28  8:30     ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-12-28  9:58       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-12-28 10:30         ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-12-28 10:40           ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-02 16:14             ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-04  3:02               ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-04  7:53                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-04 15:55                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-04 16:02                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-04 16:56                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-04 13:48               ` [RFC PATCH -v2] speculative " Peter Zijlstra
2009-12-28 10:57           ` [RFC PATCH] asynchronous " KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-12-28 11:06             ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-12-28  8:55     ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-12-28 10:08       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-12-28 11:43     ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-02 21:45 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt

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