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From: Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
Cc: "linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"nishimura@mxp.nes.nec.co.jp" <nishimura@mxp.nes.nec.co.jp>
Subject: Re: [RFC] Shared page accounting for memory cgroup
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 12:45:54 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100107071554.GO3059@balbir.in.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100106161211.5a7b600f.kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>

* KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com> [2010-01-06 16:12:11]:

> On Wed, 6 Jan 2010 12:31:50 +0530
> Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
> > > No. If it takes long time, locking fork()/exit() for such long time is the bigger
> > > issue.
> > > I recommend you to add memacct subsystem to sum up RSS of all processes's RSS counting
> > > under a cgroup.  Althoght it may add huge costs in page fault path but implementation
> > > will be very simple and will not hurt realtime ops.
> > > There will be no terrible race, I guess.
> > >
> > 
> > But others hold that lock as well, simple thing like listing tasks and
> > moving tasks, etc. I expect the usage of shared to be in the same
> > range.
> > 
> 
> And piles up costs ? I think cgroup guys should pay attention to fork/exit
> costs more. Now, it gets slower and slower.
> In that point, I never like migrate-at-task-move work in cpuset and memcg.
> 
> My 1st objection to this patch is this "shared" doesn't mean "shared between
> cgroup" but means "shared between processes".
> I think it's of no use and no help to users.
>

So what in your opinion would help end users? My concern is that as
we make progress with memcg, we account only for privately used pages
with no hint/data about the real usage (shared within or with other
cgroups). How do we decide if one cgroup is really heavy?
 
> And implementation is 2nd thing.
> 

More details on your concern, please!

-- 
	Balbir

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  reply	other threads:[~2010-01-07  7:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-12-29 18:27 [RFC] Shared page accounting for memory cgroup Balbir Singh
2010-01-03 23:51 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-01-04  0:07   ` Balbir Singh
2010-01-04  0:35     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-01-04  0:50       ` Balbir Singh
2010-01-06  4:02         ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-01-06  7:01           ` Balbir Singh
2010-01-06  7:12             ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-01-07  7:15               ` Balbir Singh [this message]
2010-01-07  7:36                 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-01-07  8:34                   ` Balbir Singh
2010-01-07  8:48                     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-01-07  9:08                       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-01-07  9:27                         ` Balbir Singh
2010-01-07 23:47                           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-01-17 19:30                             ` Balbir Singh
2010-01-18  0:05                               ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-01-18  0:22                                 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-01-18  0:49                               ` Daisuke Nishimura
2010-01-18  8:26                                 ` Balbir Singh
2010-01-19  1:22                                   ` Daisuke Nishimura
2010-01-19  1:49                                     ` Balbir Singh
2010-01-19  2:34                                       ` Daisuke Nishimura
2010-01-19  3:52                                         ` Balbir Singh
2010-01-20  4:09                                           ` Daisuke Nishimura
2010-01-20  7:15                                             ` Daisuke Nishimura
2010-01-20  7:43                                               ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-01-20  8:18                                               ` Balbir Singh
2010-01-20  8:17                                             ` Balbir Singh
2010-01-21  1:04                                               ` Daisuke Nishimura
2010-01-21  1:30                                                 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki

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