From: Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
Cc: "linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"nishimura@mxp.nes.nec.co.jp" <nishimura@mxp.nes.nec.co.jp>
Subject: Re: [RFC] Shared page accounting for memory cgroup
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 12:45:54 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100107071554.GO3059@balbir.in.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100106161211.5a7b600f.kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
* KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com> [2010-01-06 16:12:11]:
> On Wed, 6 Jan 2010 12:31:50 +0530
> Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
> > > No. If it takes long time, locking fork()/exit() for such long time is the bigger
> > > issue.
> > > I recommend you to add memacct subsystem to sum up RSS of all processes's RSS counting
> > > under a cgroup. Althoght it may add huge costs in page fault path but implementation
> > > will be very simple and will not hurt realtime ops.
> > > There will be no terrible race, I guess.
> > >
> >
> > But others hold that lock as well, simple thing like listing tasks and
> > moving tasks, etc. I expect the usage of shared to be in the same
> > range.
> >
>
> And piles up costs ? I think cgroup guys should pay attention to fork/exit
> costs more. Now, it gets slower and slower.
> In that point, I never like migrate-at-task-move work in cpuset and memcg.
>
> My 1st objection to this patch is this "shared" doesn't mean "shared between
> cgroup" but means "shared between processes".
> I think it's of no use and no help to users.
>
So what in your opinion would help end users? My concern is that as
we make progress with memcg, we account only for privately used pages
with no hint/data about the real usage (shared within or with other
cgroups). How do we decide if one cgroup is really heavy?
> And implementation is 2nd thing.
>
More details on your concern, please!
--
Balbir
--
To unsubscribe, send a message with 'unsubscribe linux-mm' in
the body to majordomo@kvack.org. For more info on Linux MM,
see: http://www.linux-mm.org/ .
Don't email: <a href=mailto:"dont@kvack.org"> email@kvack.org </a>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-01-07 7:16 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-12-29 18:27 [RFC] Shared page accounting for memory cgroup Balbir Singh
2010-01-03 23:51 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-01-04 0:07 ` Balbir Singh
2010-01-04 0:35 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-01-04 0:50 ` Balbir Singh
2010-01-06 4:02 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-01-06 7:01 ` Balbir Singh
2010-01-06 7:12 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-01-07 7:15 ` Balbir Singh [this message]
2010-01-07 7:36 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-01-07 8:34 ` Balbir Singh
2010-01-07 8:48 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-01-07 9:08 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-01-07 9:27 ` Balbir Singh
2010-01-07 23:47 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-01-17 19:30 ` Balbir Singh
2010-01-18 0:05 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-01-18 0:22 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-01-18 0:49 ` Daisuke Nishimura
2010-01-18 8:26 ` Balbir Singh
2010-01-19 1:22 ` Daisuke Nishimura
2010-01-19 1:49 ` Balbir Singh
2010-01-19 2:34 ` Daisuke Nishimura
2010-01-19 3:52 ` Balbir Singh
2010-01-20 4:09 ` Daisuke Nishimura
2010-01-20 7:15 ` Daisuke Nishimura
2010-01-20 7:43 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-01-20 8:18 ` Balbir Singh
2010-01-20 8:17 ` Balbir Singh
2010-01-21 1:04 ` Daisuke Nishimura
2010-01-21 1:30 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=20100107071554.GO3059@balbir.in.ibm.com \
--to=balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com \
--cc=akpm@linux-foundation.org \
--cc=kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com \
--cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=linux-mm@kvack.org \
--cc=nishimura@mxp.nes.nec.co.jp \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).