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From: Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
Cc: "linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"nishimura@mxp.nes.nec.co.jp" <nishimura@mxp.nes.nec.co.jp>
Subject: Re: [RFC] Shared page accounting for memory cgroup
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 14:57:36 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100107092736.GW3059@balbir.in.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100107180800.7b85ed10.kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>

* KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com> [2010-01-07 18:08:00]:

> On Thu, 7 Jan 2010 17:48:14 +0900
> KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com> wrote:
> > > > "How pages are shared" doesn't show good hints. I don't hear such parameter
> > > > is used in production's resource monitoring software.
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > You mean "How many pages are shared" are not good hints, please see my
> > > justification above. With Virtualization (look at KSM for example),
> > > shared pages are going to be increasingly important part of the
> > > accounting.
> > > 
> > 
> > Considering KSM, your cuounting style is tooo bad.
> > 
> > You should add 
> > 
> >  - MEM_CGROUP_STAT_SHARED_BY_KSM
> >  - MEM_CGROUP_STAT_FOR_TMPFS/SYSV_IPC_SHMEM
> > 

No.. I am just talking about shared memory being important and shared
accounting being useful, no counters for KSM in particular (in the
memcg context).

> > counters to memcg rather than scanning. I can help tests.
> > 
> > I have no objections to have above 2 counters. It's informative.
> > 

Apart from those two, I want to provide what Pss provides today or an
approximation of it.

> > But, memory reclaim can page-out pages even if pages are shared.
> > So, "how heavy memcg is" is an independent problem from above coutners.
> > 
> 
> In other words, above counters can show
> "What role the memcg play in the system" to some extent.
> 
> But I don't express it as "heavy" ....."importance or influence of cgroup" ?
> 
> Thanks,
> -Kame
> 
> 

-- 
	Balbir

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  reply	other threads:[~2010-01-07  9:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-12-29 18:27 [RFC] Shared page accounting for memory cgroup Balbir Singh
2010-01-03 23:51 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-01-04  0:07   ` Balbir Singh
2010-01-04  0:35     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-01-04  0:50       ` Balbir Singh
2010-01-06  4:02         ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-01-06  7:01           ` Balbir Singh
2010-01-06  7:12             ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-01-07  7:15               ` Balbir Singh
2010-01-07  7:36                 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-01-07  8:34                   ` Balbir Singh
2010-01-07  8:48                     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-01-07  9:08                       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-01-07  9:27                         ` Balbir Singh [this message]
2010-01-07 23:47                           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-01-17 19:30                             ` Balbir Singh
2010-01-18  0:05                               ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-01-18  0:22                                 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-01-18  0:49                               ` Daisuke Nishimura
2010-01-18  8:26                                 ` Balbir Singh
2010-01-19  1:22                                   ` Daisuke Nishimura
2010-01-19  1:49                                     ` Balbir Singh
2010-01-19  2:34                                       ` Daisuke Nishimura
2010-01-19  3:52                                         ` Balbir Singh
2010-01-20  4:09                                           ` Daisuke Nishimura
2010-01-20  7:15                                             ` Daisuke Nishimura
2010-01-20  7:43                                               ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-01-20  8:18                                               ` Balbir Singh
2010-01-20  8:17                                             ` Balbir Singh
2010-01-21  1:04                                               ` Daisuke Nishimura
2010-01-21  1:30                                                 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki

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