From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
To: Oliver Neukum <oliver@neukum.org>
Cc: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
Bastien ROUCARIES <roucaries.bastien@gmail.com>,
KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
Maxim Levitsky <maximlevitsky@gmail.com>,
linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] PM: Force GFP_NOIO during suspend/resume (was: Re: [linux-pm] Memory allocations in .suspend became very unreliable)
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 22:12:49 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <201001202212.49925.rjw@sisk.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201001201231.17540.oliver@neukum.org>
On Wednesday 20 January 2010, Oliver Neukum wrote:
> Am Mittwoch, 20. Januar 2010 00:17:51 schrieb Benjamin Herrenschmidt:
> > On Tue, 2010-01-19 at 10:04 +0100, Bastien ROUCARIES wrote:
> > > Instead of masking bit could we only check if incompatible flags are
> > > used during suspend, and warm deeply. Call stack will be therefore
> > > identified, and we could have some metrics about such problem.
> > >
> > > It will be a debug option like lockdep but pretty low cost.
> >
> > I still believe it would just be a giant can of worms to require every
> > call site of memory allocators to "know" whether suspend has been
> > started or not.... Along the same reasons why we added that stuff for
> > boot time allocs.
>
> But we have the freezer. So generally we don't require that knowledge.
> We can expect no normal IO to happen.
> The question is in the suspend paths. We never may use anything
> but GFP_NOIO (and GFP_ATOMIC) in the suspend() path. We can
> take care of that requirement in the allocator only if the whole system
> is suspended. As soon as a driver does runtime power management,
> it is on its own.
If you start new kernel threads using the async framework, for example,
GFP_KERNEL allocations are going to be used.
As I said before, IMnshO , duplicating every piece of code that allocates
memory and can be run during suspend/resume as well as in other circumstances
doesn't make sense.
Rafael
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2010-01-17 0:38 ` [RFC][PATCH] PM: Force GFP_NOIO during suspend/resume (was: Re: [linux-pm] Memory allocations in .suspend became very unreliable) Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-17 1:24 ` Oliver Neukum
2010-01-17 13:27 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-17 13:36 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-17 18:58 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-01-17 23:00 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-18 7:53 ` Oliver Neukum
2010-01-18 16:17 ` [linux-pm] [RFC][PATCH] PM: Force GFP_NOIO during suspend/resume (was: " Alan Stern
2010-01-18 20:59 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-19 15:13 ` Alan Stern
2010-01-18 20:56 ` [RFC][PATCH] PM: Force GFP_NOIO during suspend/resume (was: Re: [linux-pm] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-18 21:55 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-01-18 23:33 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-17 13:55 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-17 16:21 ` [linux-pm] [RFC][PATCH] PM: Force GFP_NOIO during suspend/resume (was: " Minchan Kim
2010-01-17 16:23 ` Minchan Kim
2010-01-18 0:25 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-18 2:20 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-01-18 21:06 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-19 9:15 ` Oliver Neukum
2010-01-19 20:34 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-18 17:00 ` [RFC][PATCH] PM: Force GFP_NOIO during suspend/resume (was: Re: [linux-pm] " Oliver Neukum
2010-01-18 20:41 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-19 9:25 ` Oliver Neukum
2010-01-19 20:37 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-20 14:05 ` Oliver Neukum
2010-01-20 21:13 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-18 2:16 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-01-18 20:55 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-19 1:19 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-01-19 3:19 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-01-19 9:04 ` Bastien ROUCARIES
2010-01-19 23:17 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-01-20 11:31 ` Oliver Neukum
2010-01-20 21:11 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-01-20 21:12 ` Rafael J. Wysocki [this message]
2010-01-19 20:47 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-20 0:33 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-01-20 21:21 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-21 0:47 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-01-21 20:21 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-21 20:42 ` [linux-pm] [RFC][PATCH] PM: Force GFP_NOIO during suspend/resume (was: " Nigel Cunningham
2010-01-21 21:38 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-22 1:31 ` [RFC][PATCH] PM: Force GFP_NOIO during suspend/resume (was: Re: [linux-pm] " KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-01-22 1:42 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-01-22 10:11 ` Maxim Levitsky
2010-01-22 21:19 ` [Update][PATCH] MM / PM: Force GFP_NOIO during suspend/hibernation and resume Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-23 9:29 ` Maxim Levitsky
2010-01-25 21:49 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-25 21:52 ` Alexey Starikovskiy
2010-01-30 18:56 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-30 20:42 ` Maxim Levitsky
2010-01-30 20:53 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-22 20:58 ` [RFC][PATCH] PM: Force GFP_NOIO during suspend/resume (was: Re: [linux-pm] Memory allocations in .suspend became very unreliable) Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-30 15:46 ` Maxim Levitsky
2010-01-30 18:47 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-30 20:37 ` Maxim Levitsky
2010-02-01 19:51 ` Maxim Levitsky
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