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From: Robin Holt <holt@sgi.com>
To: Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>, Robin Holt <holt@sgi.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Jack Steiner <steiner@sgi.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [RFP-V2 0/3] Make mmu_notifier_invalidate_range_start able to sleep.
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 07:29:20 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100202132919.GO6653@sgi.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100202131341.GI4135@random.random>

On Tue, Feb 02, 2010 at 02:13:41PM +0100, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 02, 2010 at 01:59:43PM +0100, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
> > slowdown the locking even if it leaves holes and corrupts memory when
> > XPMEM can be opened by luser. It really depends if the user having
> > access to XPMEM device is malicious, if we know it's not (assume
> > avatar distributed rendering in closed environment or whatever) this
> > again is an ok hack.
> 
> >From another point of view: if the userland has to be as trusted as
> the kernel for this hack to be ok, I don't get it why it's not ok to
> just schedule unconditionally in the invalidate_range_start without
> altering the API and gracefully deadlock in the i_mmap_lock. If the
> secondary mappings cannot be teardown without scheduling, it means the
> page will be swapped out but the physical pages can be still written
> to despite the page being swapped out and reused by something else
> leading to trivial memory corruption if the user having access to
> xpmem device is malicious.
> 
> Like Andrew already said, we've no clue what the "bool atomic"
> parameter will be used for and so it's next to impossible to judge the
> validity of this hack (because an hack that is). We don't know how
> xpmem will react to that event, all we know is that it won't be able
> to invalidate secondary mappings by the time this call returns leading
> to memory corruption. If it panics or if it ignores the invalidate
> when atomic=1, it's equivalent or worse than just schedule in

The atomic==1 case is only for the truncate case, correct?  XPMEM is
holding reference counts on the pages it exports (get_user_pages) so
they are not freed even when the zap_page_range has completed.  What I
think we are dealing with is an inconsistent appearance to userland.
The one task would SIG_BUS if it touches the memory.  The other would
be able to read/write it just fine until the ascynchronous zap of the
attachment completed.

Robin

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  reply	other threads:[~2010-02-02 13:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20100202040145.555474000@alcatraz.americas.sgi.com>
2010-02-02  4:01 ` [RFP-V2 1/3] Have mmu_notifiers use SRCU so they may safely schedule Robin Holt
2010-02-02  4:01 ` [RFP-V2 2/3] Fix unmap_vma() bug related to mmu_notifiers Robin Holt
2010-02-02  4:01 ` [RFP-V2 3/3] Make mmu_notifier_invalidate_range_start able to sleep Robin Holt
2010-02-02  8:09 ` [RFP-V2 0/3] " Christoph Hellwig
2010-02-02 12:59   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2010-02-02 13:13     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2010-02-02 13:29       ` Robin Holt [this message]
2010-02-02 13:40         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2010-02-02 13:51           ` Robin Holt
2010-02-02 14:10             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2010-02-02 14:21               ` Robin Holt
2010-02-02 14:59                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2010-02-02 15:21                   ` Robin Holt
2010-02-02 16:01                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2010-02-02 16:39                       ` Robin Holt
2010-02-02 16:52                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2010-02-02 16:59                           ` Robin Holt
2010-02-02 17:31                             ` Robin Holt
2010-02-02 20:27                               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2010-02-02 20:17                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2010-02-03  0:48                               ` Robin Holt
2010-02-03 17:14                                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2010-02-03 17:18                                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2010-02-03 19:54                                   ` Robin Holt
2010-02-02 13:23     ` Robin Holt
2010-02-02 13:35   ` Robin Holt

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