From: Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>
To: Christoph Lameter <cl@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>,
Adam Litke <agl@us.ibm.com>, Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>,
Izik Eidus <ieidus@redhat.com>,
Hugh Dickins <hugh.dickins@tiscali.co.uk>,
Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>, Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>, Dave Hansen <dave@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, Mike Travis <travis@sgi.com>,
KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
Chris Wright <chrisw@sous-sol.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
bpicco@redhat.com,
KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 32 of 32] khugepaged
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 17:30:42 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100203163042.GA5959@random.random> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1002031010170.6590@router.home>
On Wed, Feb 03, 2010 at 10:13:12AM -0600, Christoph Lameter wrote:
> On Tue, 2 Feb 2010, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
>
> > How would you say it? I think if ksm was forced to the migration pte
> > like it was discussed when ksm was first submitted, I would definitely
> > be forced to use it here too in order to get it merged. Do you disagree?
>
> How about at least consolidating the code with ksm pieces?
It's much easier and realistic to consolidate ksm with migrate (which
isn't even done yet) than to consolidate any of the two with
khugepaged (both things you're asked and magically you don't care
about consolidation of ksm and migrate despite it's stuff already in
mainline).
ksm at least runs ptep_clear_flush_notify and works with ptes, so it
is more similar to what migrate does. khugepaged to be a lot faster
and execute a single IPI instead a flood of 512 per pmd, uses
pmdp_clear_flush_notify... it never calls ptep_clear_flush_notify
and ksm will never be able to call pmdp_clear_flush_notify (well of
course until we add transhuge support to ksm too, at which point not
even ksm will merge with migration code).
So unless you create a migration pmd in addition to the migration pte
I'd be shooting khugepaged with 511 unnecessary IPIs by consolidating
it at this point. Or at the very least first you have to make migrate
capable of migrating natively transhuge pages with a migration
pmd.
But again at this point all you can hope to consolidate is ksm with
migrate, khugepaged is the most different in having the serialiation
point in the pmd and not in the pte.
> I am asking for simplification and that you do the cleanup work that comes
> with introcing new functionality in the kernel.
If I thought it was possible or more robust to consolidate I think I
wouldn't be opposing it, I just don't think this is cleanup work but
gratuitous complexity added to ksm and khugepaged. And unless I add
even more functionality (migration pmd and native handling of hugepage
migration in pmd instead of a 3 liner) there's no way to merge
khugepaged with migrate, so I think if one wants to start removing
lines of code, it should start with ksm/migrate consolidation, that at
least won't require adding more functionality (i.e. more lines and
more complexity) not just to migrate but all over the page faults that
could run on a not present (migrate) pmd.
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Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-01-31 20:27 [PATCH 00 of 32] Transparent Hugepage support #9 Andrea Arcangeli
2010-01-31 20:27 ` [PATCH 01 of 32] define MADV_HUGEPAGE Andrea Arcangeli
2010-01-31 20:27 ` [PATCH 02 of 32] compound_lock Andrea Arcangeli
2010-01-31 20:27 ` [PATCH 03 of 32] alter compound get_page/put_page Andrea Arcangeli
2010-01-31 20:27 ` [PATCH 04 of 32] update futex compound knowledge Andrea Arcangeli
2010-02-16 11:33 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-03-01 17:58 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2010-03-01 18:07 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-03-01 18:23 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2010-01-31 20:27 ` [PATCH 05 of 32] fix bad_page to show the real reason the page is bad Andrea Arcangeli
2010-01-31 20:27 ` [PATCH 06 of 32] clear compound mapping Andrea Arcangeli
2010-01-31 20:27 ` [PATCH 07 of 32] add native_set_pmd_at Andrea Arcangeli
2010-01-31 20:27 ` [PATCH 08 of 32] add pmd paravirt ops Andrea Arcangeli
2010-01-31 20:27 ` [PATCH 09 of 32] no paravirt version of pmd ops Andrea Arcangeli
2010-01-31 20:27 ` [PATCH 10 of 32] export maybe_mkwrite Andrea Arcangeli
2010-01-31 20:27 ` [PATCH 11 of 32] comment reminder in destroy_compound_page Andrea Arcangeli
2010-01-31 20:27 ` [PATCH 12 of 32] config_transparent_hugepage Andrea Arcangeli
2010-01-31 20:27 ` [PATCH 13 of 32] special pmd_trans_* functions Andrea Arcangeli
2010-01-31 20:27 ` [PATCH 14 of 32] add pmd mangling generic functions Andrea Arcangeli
2010-01-31 20:27 ` [PATCH 15 of 32] add pmd mangling functions to x86 Andrea Arcangeli
2010-01-31 20:27 ` [PATCH 16 of 32] bail out gup_fast on splitting pmd Andrea Arcangeli
2010-01-31 20:27 ` [PATCH 17 of 32] pte alloc trans splitting Andrea Arcangeli
2010-01-31 20:27 ` [PATCH 18 of 32] add pmd mmu_notifier helpers Andrea Arcangeli
2010-01-31 20:27 ` [PATCH 19 of 32] clear page compound Andrea Arcangeli
2010-02-01 21:37 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-01-31 20:27 ` [PATCH 20 of 32] add pmd_huge_pte to mm_struct Andrea Arcangeli
2010-01-31 20:27 ` [PATCH 21 of 32] split_huge_page_mm/vma Andrea Arcangeli
2010-01-31 20:27 ` [PATCH 22 of 32] split_huge_page paging Andrea Arcangeli
2010-01-31 20:27 ` [PATCH 23 of 32] clear_copy_huge_page Andrea Arcangeli
2010-01-31 20:27 ` [PATCH 24 of 32] kvm mmu transparent hugepage support Andrea Arcangeli
2010-01-31 20:27 ` [PATCH 25 of 32] transparent hugepage core Andrea Arcangeli
2010-01-31 20:27 ` [PATCH 26 of 32] verify pmd_trans_huge isn't leaking Andrea Arcangeli
2010-01-31 20:27 ` [PATCH 27 of 32] madvise(MADV_HUGEPAGE) Andrea Arcangeli
2010-01-31 20:27 ` [PATCH 28 of 32] pmd_trans_huge migrate bugcheck Andrea Arcangeli
2010-02-01 21:46 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-02-03 15:49 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2010-01-31 20:27 ` [PATCH 29 of 32] memcg compound Andrea Arcangeli
2010-01-31 20:27 ` [PATCH 30 of 32] memcg huge memory Andrea Arcangeli
2010-01-31 20:27 ` [PATCH 31 of 32] transparent hugepage vmstat Andrea Arcangeli
2010-01-31 20:27 ` [PATCH 32 of 32] khugepaged Andrea Arcangeli
2010-02-01 17:03 ` Rik van Riel
2010-02-02 13:56 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2010-02-01 22:18 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-02-01 22:56 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2010-02-02 19:52 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-02-02 20:24 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2010-02-03 16:13 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-02-03 16:30 ` Andrea Arcangeli [this message]
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