From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
To: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
Cc: Chris Webb <chris@arachsys.com>, Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>,
balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
KVM development list <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
Rik van Riel <riel@surriel.com>,
KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH][RF C/T/D] Unmapped page cache control - via boot parameter
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 20:43:07 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100316004307.GA19470@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4B9EC60A.2070101@codemonkey.ws>
On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 06:43:06PM -0500, Anthony Liguori wrote:
> I knew someone would do this...
>
> This really gets down to your definition of "safe" behaviour. As it
> stands, if you suffer a power outage, it may lead to guest corruption.
>
> While we are correct in advertising a write-cache, write-caches are
> volatile and should a drive lose power, it could lead to data
> corruption. Enterprise disks tend to have battery backed write caches
> to prevent this.
>
> In the set up you're emulating, the host is acting as a giant write
> cache. Should your host fail, you can get data corruption.
>
> cache=writethrough provides a much stronger data guarantee. Even in the
> event of a host failure, data integrity will be preserved.
Actually cache=writeback is as safe as any normal host is with a
volatile disk cache, except that in this case the disk cache is
actually a lot larger. With a properly implemented filesystem this
will never cause corruption. You will lose recent updates after
the last sync/fsync/etc up to the size of the cache, but filesystem
metadata should never be corrupted, and data that has been forced to
disk using fsync/O_SYNC should never be lost either. If it is that's
a bug somewhere in the stack, but in my powerfail testing we never did
so using xfs or ext3/4 after I fixed up the fsync code in the latter
two.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-03-16 0:43 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-03-15 7:22 [PATCH][RF C/T/D] Unmapped page cache control - via boot parameter Balbir Singh
2010-03-15 7:48 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-15 8:07 ` Balbir Singh
2010-03-15 8:27 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-15 9:17 ` Balbir Singh
2010-03-15 9:27 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-15 10:45 ` Balbir Singh
2010-03-15 18:48 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-16 9:05 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-19 7:23 ` Dave Hansen
2010-03-15 20:23 ` Chris Webb
2010-03-15 23:43 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-16 0:43 ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2010-03-16 1:27 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-16 8:19 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-03-17 15:14 ` Chris Webb
2010-03-17 15:55 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-17 16:27 ` Chris Webb
2010-03-22 21:04 ` Chris Webb
2010-03-22 21:07 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-22 21:10 ` Chris Webb
2010-03-17 16:27 ` Balbir Singh
2010-03-17 17:05 ` Vivek Goyal
2010-03-17 19:11 ` Chris Webb
2010-03-16 3:16 ` Balbir Singh
2010-03-16 9:17 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-16 9:54 ` Kevin Wolf
2010-03-16 10:16 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-16 10:26 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-03-16 10:36 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-16 10:44 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-03-16 11:08 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-16 14:27 ` Balbir Singh
2010-03-16 15:59 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-17 8:49 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-03-17 9:10 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-17 15:24 ` Chris Webb
2010-03-17 16:22 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-17 16:40 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-17 16:47 ` Chris Webb
2010-03-17 16:53 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-17 16:58 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-03-17 17:03 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-17 16:57 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-03-17 17:06 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-17 16:52 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-03-17 17:02 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-15 15:46 ` Randy Dunlap
2010-03-16 3:21 ` Balbir Singh
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