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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>
Cc: Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@linux-foundation.org>,
	Adam Litke <agl@us.ibm.com>, Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>,
	KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 08/11] Add /proc trigger for memory compaction
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 13:33:51 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100324133351.c7730969.akpm@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1269347146-7461-9-git-send-email-mel@csn.ul.ie>

On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 12:25:43 +0000
Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie> wrote:

> This patch adds a proc file /proc/sys/vm/compact_memory. When an arbitrary
> value is written to the file, all zones are compacted. The expected user
> of such a trigger is a job scheduler that prepares the system before the
> target application runs.
> 
>
> ...
>
> +/* This is the entry point for compacting all nodes via /proc/sys/vm */
> +int sysctl_compaction_handler(struct ctl_table *table, int write,
> +			void __user *buffer, size_t *length, loff_t *ppos)
> +{
> +	if (write)
> +		return compact_nodes();
> +
> +	return 0;
> +}

Neato.  When I saw the overall description I was afraid that this stuff
would be fiddling with kernel threads.

The underlying compaction code can at times cause rather large amounts
of memory to be put onto private lists, so it's lost to the rest of the
kernel.  What happens if 10000 processes simultaneously write to this
thing?  It's root-only so I guess the answer is "root becomes unemployed".


I fear that the overall effect of this feature is that people will come
up with ghastly hacks which keep on poking this tunable as a workaround
for some VM shortcoming.  This will lead to more shortcomings, and
longer-lived ones.


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-03-24 20:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-03-23 12:25 [PATCH 0/11] Memory Compaction v5 Mel Gorman
2010-03-23 12:25 ` [PATCH 01/11] mm,migration: Take a reference to the anon_vma before migrating Mel Gorman
2010-03-23 12:25 ` [PATCH 02/11] mm,migration: Do not try to migrate unmapped anonymous pages Mel Gorman
2010-03-23 17:22   ` Christoph Lameter
2010-03-23 18:04     ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-23 12:25 ` [PATCH 03/11] mm: Share the anon_vma ref counts between KSM and page migration Mel Gorman
2010-03-23 17:25   ` Christoph Lameter
2010-03-23 23:55   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-03-23 12:25 ` [PATCH 04/11] Allow CONFIG_MIGRATION to be set without CONFIG_NUMA or memory hot-remove Mel Gorman
2010-03-23 12:25 ` [PATCH 05/11] Export unusable free space index via /proc/unusable_index Mel Gorman
2010-03-23 17:31   ` Christoph Lameter
2010-03-23 18:14     ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-24  0:03   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-03-24  0:16     ` Minchan Kim
2010-03-24  0:13       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-03-24 10:25     ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-23 12:25 ` [PATCH 06/11] Export fragmentation index via /proc/extfrag_index Mel Gorman
2010-03-23 17:37   ` Christoph Lameter
2010-03-23 12:25 ` [PATCH 07/11] Memory compaction core Mel Gorman
2010-03-23 17:56   ` Christoph Lameter
2010-03-23 18:15     ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-23 18:33       ` Christoph Lameter
2010-03-23 18:58         ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-23 19:20           ` Christoph Lameter
2010-03-24  1:03   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-03-24  1:47     ` Minchan Kim
2010-03-24  1:53       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-03-24  2:10         ` Minchan Kim
2010-03-24 10:57           ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-24 20:33   ` Andrew Morton
2010-03-24 20:59     ` Jonathan Corbet
2010-03-24 21:14       ` Andrew Morton
2010-03-24 21:19         ` Christoph Lameter
2010-03-24 21:19       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2010-03-24 21:28         ` Jonathan Corbet
2010-03-24 21:47           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2010-03-24 21:54             ` Jonathan Corbet
2010-03-24 22:06               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2010-03-24 21:57             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2010-03-25  9:13     ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-23 12:25 ` [PATCH 08/11] Add /proc trigger for memory compaction Mel Gorman
2010-03-23 18:25   ` Christoph Lameter
2010-03-23 18:32     ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-24 20:33   ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2010-03-26 10:46     ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-23 12:25 ` [PATCH 09/11] Add /sys trigger for per-node " Mel Gorman
2010-03-23 18:27   ` Christoph Lameter
2010-03-23 22:45   ` Minchan Kim
2010-03-24  0:19   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-03-23 12:25 ` [PATCH 10/11] Direct compact when a high-order allocation fails Mel Gorman
2010-03-23 23:10   ` Minchan Kim
2010-03-24 11:11     ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-24 11:59       ` Minchan Kim
2010-03-24 12:06         ` Minchan Kim
2010-03-24 12:10           ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-24 12:09         ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-24 12:25           ` Minchan Kim
2010-03-24  1:19   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-03-24 11:40     ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-25  0:30       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-03-25  9:48         ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-25  9:50           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-03-25 10:16             ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-26  1:03               ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-03-26  9:40                 ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-24 20:48   ` Andrew Morton
2010-03-25  0:57     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-03-25 10:21     ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-23 12:25 ` [PATCH 11/11] Do not compact within a preferred zone after a compaction failure Mel Gorman
2010-03-23 18:31   ` Christoph Lameter
2010-03-23 18:39     ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-23 19:27       ` Christoph Lameter
2010-03-24 10:37         ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-24 19:54           ` Christoph Lameter
2010-03-24 20:53   ` Andrew Morton
2010-03-25  9:40     ` Mel Gorman
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-03-12 16:41 [PATCH 0/11] Memory Compaction v4 Mel Gorman
2010-03-12 16:41 ` [PATCH 08/11] Add /proc trigger for memory compaction Mel Gorman
2010-03-17  3:18   ` KOSAKI Motohiro

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