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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>
Cc: Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@linux-foundation.org>,
	Adam Litke <agl@us.ibm.com>, Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>,
	KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 11/11] Do not compact within a preferred zone after a compaction failure
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 13:53:47 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100324135347.7a9eb37b.akpm@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1269347146-7461-12-git-send-email-mel@csn.ul.ie>

On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 12:25:46 +0000
Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie> wrote:

> The fragmentation index may indicate that a failure it due to external
> fragmentation, a compaction run complete and an allocation failure still
> fail. There are two obvious reasons as to why
> 
>   o Page migration cannot move all pages so fragmentation remains
>   o A suitable page may exist but watermarks are not met
> 
> In the event of compaction and allocation failure, this patch prevents
> compaction happening for a short interval. It's only recorded on the
> preferred zone but that should be enough coverage. This could have been
> implemented similar to the zonelist_cache but the increased size of the
> zonelist did not appear to be justified.
> 
>
> ...
>
> +/* defer_compaction - Do not compact within a zone until a given time */
> +static inline void defer_compaction(struct zone *zone, unsigned long resume)
> +{
> +	/*
> +	 * This function is called when compaction fails to result in a page
> +	 * allocation success. This is somewhat unsatisfactory as the failure
> +	 * to compact has nothing to do with time and everything to do with
> +	 * the requested order, the number of free pages and watermarks. How
> +	 * to wait on that is more unclear, but the answer would apply to
> +	 * other areas where the VM waits based on time.

um.  "Two wrongs don't make a right".  We should fix the other sites,
not use them as excuses ;)

What _is_ a good measure of "time" in this code?  "number of pages
scanned" is a pretty good one in reclaim.  We want something which will
adapt itself to amount-of-memory, number-of-cpus, speed-of-cpus,
nature-of-workload, etc, etc.

Is it possible to come up with some simple metric which approximately
reflects how busy this code is, then pace ourselves via that?

> +	 */
> +	zone->compact_resume = resume;
> +}
> +
> +static inline int compaction_deferred(struct zone *zone)
> +{
> +	/* init once if necessary */
> +	if (unlikely(!zone->compact_resume)) {
> +		zone->compact_resume = jiffies;
> +		return 0;
> +	}
> +
> +	return time_before(jiffies, zone->compact_resume);
> +}

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-03-24 20:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-03-23 12:25 [PATCH 0/11] Memory Compaction v5 Mel Gorman
2010-03-23 12:25 ` [PATCH 01/11] mm,migration: Take a reference to the anon_vma before migrating Mel Gorman
2010-03-23 12:25 ` [PATCH 02/11] mm,migration: Do not try to migrate unmapped anonymous pages Mel Gorman
2010-03-23 17:22   ` Christoph Lameter
2010-03-23 18:04     ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-23 12:25 ` [PATCH 03/11] mm: Share the anon_vma ref counts between KSM and page migration Mel Gorman
2010-03-23 17:25   ` Christoph Lameter
2010-03-23 23:55   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-03-23 12:25 ` [PATCH 04/11] Allow CONFIG_MIGRATION to be set without CONFIG_NUMA or memory hot-remove Mel Gorman
2010-03-23 12:25 ` [PATCH 05/11] Export unusable free space index via /proc/unusable_index Mel Gorman
2010-03-23 17:31   ` Christoph Lameter
2010-03-23 18:14     ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-24  0:03   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-03-24  0:16     ` Minchan Kim
2010-03-24  0:13       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-03-24 10:25     ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-23 12:25 ` [PATCH 06/11] Export fragmentation index via /proc/extfrag_index Mel Gorman
2010-03-23 17:37   ` Christoph Lameter
2010-03-23 12:25 ` [PATCH 07/11] Memory compaction core Mel Gorman
2010-03-23 17:56   ` Christoph Lameter
2010-03-23 18:15     ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-23 18:33       ` Christoph Lameter
2010-03-23 18:58         ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-23 19:20           ` Christoph Lameter
2010-03-24  1:03   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-03-24  1:47     ` Minchan Kim
2010-03-24  1:53       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-03-24  2:10         ` Minchan Kim
2010-03-24 10:57           ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-24 20:33   ` Andrew Morton
2010-03-24 20:59     ` Jonathan Corbet
2010-03-24 21:14       ` Andrew Morton
2010-03-24 21:19         ` Christoph Lameter
2010-03-24 21:19       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2010-03-24 21:28         ` Jonathan Corbet
2010-03-24 21:47           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2010-03-24 21:54             ` Jonathan Corbet
2010-03-24 22:06               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2010-03-24 21:57             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2010-03-25  9:13     ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-23 12:25 ` [PATCH 08/11] Add /proc trigger for memory compaction Mel Gorman
2010-03-23 18:25   ` Christoph Lameter
2010-03-23 18:32     ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-24 20:33   ` Andrew Morton
2010-03-26 10:46     ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-23 12:25 ` [PATCH 09/11] Add /sys trigger for per-node " Mel Gorman
2010-03-23 18:27   ` Christoph Lameter
2010-03-23 22:45   ` Minchan Kim
2010-03-24  0:19   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-03-23 12:25 ` [PATCH 10/11] Direct compact when a high-order allocation fails Mel Gorman
2010-03-23 23:10   ` Minchan Kim
2010-03-24 11:11     ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-24 11:59       ` Minchan Kim
2010-03-24 12:06         ` Minchan Kim
2010-03-24 12:10           ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-24 12:09         ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-24 12:25           ` Minchan Kim
2010-03-24  1:19   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-03-24 11:40     ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-25  0:30       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-03-25  9:48         ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-25  9:50           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-03-25 10:16             ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-26  1:03               ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-03-26  9:40                 ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-24 20:48   ` Andrew Morton
2010-03-25  0:57     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-03-25 10:21     ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-23 12:25 ` [PATCH 11/11] Do not compact within a preferred zone after a compaction failure Mel Gorman
2010-03-23 18:31   ` Christoph Lameter
2010-03-23 18:39     ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-23 19:27       ` Christoph Lameter
2010-03-24 10:37         ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-24 19:54           ` Christoph Lameter
2010-03-24 20:53   ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2010-03-25  9:40     ` Mel Gorman
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-03-12 16:41 [PATCH 0/11] Memory Compaction v4 Mel Gorman
2010-03-12 16:41 ` [PATCH 11/11] Do not compact within a preferred zone after a compaction failure Mel Gorman

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