From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>
Cc: Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
Christoph Lameter <cl@linux-foundation.org>,
Adam Litke <agl@us.ibm.com>, Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>,
David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>,
KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 13/14] Do not compact within a preferred zone after a compaction failure
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 17:06:16 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100406170616.7d0f24b1.akpm@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1270224168-14775-14-git-send-email-mel@csn.ul.ie>
On Fri, 2 Apr 2010 17:02:47 +0100
Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie> wrote:
> The fragmentation index may indicate that a failure is due to external
> fragmentation but after a compaction run completes, it is still possible
> for an allocation to fail. There are two obvious reasons as to why
>
> o Page migration cannot move all pages so fragmentation remains
> o A suitable page may exist but watermarks are not met
>
> In the event of compaction followed by an allocation failure, this patch
> defers further compaction in the zone for a period of time. The zone that
> is deferred is the first zone in the zonelist - i.e. the preferred zone.
> To defer compaction in the other zones, the information would need to be
> stored in the zonelist or implemented similar to the zonelist_cache.
> This would impact the fast-paths and is not justified at this time.
>
Your patch, it sucks!
> ---
> include/linux/compaction.h | 35 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> include/linux/mmzone.h | 7 +++++++
> mm/page_alloc.c | 5 ++++-
> 3 files changed, 46 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/include/linux/compaction.h b/include/linux/compaction.h
> index ae98afc..2a02719 100644
> --- a/include/linux/compaction.h
> +++ b/include/linux/compaction.h
> @@ -18,6 +18,32 @@ extern int sysctl_extfrag_handler(struct ctl_table *table, int write,
> extern int fragmentation_index(struct zone *zone, unsigned int order);
> extern unsigned long try_to_compact_pages(struct zonelist *zonelist,
> int order, gfp_t gfp_mask, nodemask_t *mask);
> +
> +/* defer_compaction - Do not compact within a zone until a given time */
> +static inline void defer_compaction(struct zone *zone, unsigned long resume)
> +{
> + /*
> + * This function is called when compaction fails to result in a page
> + * allocation success. This is somewhat unsatisfactory as the failure
> + * to compact has nothing to do with time and everything to do with
> + * the requested order, the number of free pages and watermarks. How
> + * to wait on that is more unclear, but the answer would apply to
> + * other areas where the VM waits based on time.
> + */
c'mon, let's not make this rod for our backs.
The "A suitable page may exist but watermarks are not met" case can be
addressed by testing the watermarks up-front, surely?
I bet the "Page migration cannot move all pages so fragmentation
remains" case can be addressed by setting some metric in the zone, and
suitably modifying that as a result on ongoing activity. To tell the
zone "hey, compaction migth be worth trying now". that sucks too, but not
so much.
Or something. Putting a wallclock-based throttle on it like this
really does reduce the usefulness of the whole feature.
Internet: "My application works OK on a hard disk but fails when I use an SSD!".
akpm: "Tell Mel!"
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-04-07 0:06 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-04-02 16:02 [PATCH 0/14] Memory Compaction v7 Mel Gorman
2010-04-02 16:02 ` [PATCH 01/14] mm,migration: Take a reference to the anon_vma before migrating Mel Gorman
2010-04-07 0:05 ` Andrew Morton
2010-04-07 9:56 ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-02 16:02 ` [PATCH 02/14] mm,migration: Do not try to migrate unmapped anonymous pages Mel Gorman
2010-04-02 16:02 ` [PATCH 03/14] mm: Share the anon_vma ref counts between KSM and page migration Mel Gorman
2010-04-07 0:05 ` Andrew Morton
2010-04-07 0:10 ` Rik van Riel
2010-04-07 10:01 ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-02 16:02 ` [PATCH 04/14] Allow CONFIG_MIGRATION to be set without CONFIG_NUMA or memory hot-remove Mel Gorman
2010-04-07 0:05 ` Andrew Morton
2010-04-07 10:22 ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-02 16:02 ` [PATCH 05/14] Export unusable free space index via /proc/unusable_index Mel Gorman
2010-04-07 0:05 ` Andrew Morton
2010-04-07 10:35 ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-13 12:42 ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-02 16:02 ` [PATCH 06/14] Export fragmentation index via /proc/extfrag_index Mel Gorman
2010-04-07 0:05 ` Andrew Morton
2010-04-07 10:46 ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-13 12:43 ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-02 16:02 ` [PATCH 07/14] Move definition for LRU isolation modes to a header Mel Gorman
2010-04-02 16:02 ` [PATCH 08/14] Memory compaction core Mel Gorman
2010-04-07 0:05 ` Andrew Morton
2010-04-07 15:21 ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-08 16:59 ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-08 17:06 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2010-04-02 16:02 ` [PATCH 09/14] Add /proc trigger for memory compaction Mel Gorman
2010-04-07 0:05 ` Andrew Morton
2010-04-07 15:39 ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-07 18:27 ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-02 16:02 ` [PATCH 10/14] Add /sys trigger for per-node " Mel Gorman
2010-04-07 0:05 ` Andrew Morton
2010-04-07 0:31 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-04-06 21:56 ` Andrew Morton
2010-04-07 1:19 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-04-07 15:42 ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-02 16:02 ` [PATCH 11/14] Direct compact when a high-order allocation fails Mel Gorman
2010-04-07 0:06 ` Andrew Morton
2010-04-07 16:06 ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-07 18:29 ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-02 16:02 ` [PATCH 12/14] Add a tunable that decides when memory should be compacted and when it should be reclaimed Mel Gorman
2010-04-07 0:06 ` Andrew Morton
2010-04-07 16:11 ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-02 16:02 ` [PATCH 13/14] Do not compact within a preferred zone after a compaction failure Mel Gorman
2010-04-07 0:06 ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2010-04-07 0:55 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2010-04-07 16:32 ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-02 16:02 ` [PATCH 14/14] mm,migration: Allow the migration of PageSwapCache pages Mel Gorman
2010-04-06 6:54 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-04-06 15:37 ` Minchan Kim
2010-04-07 0:06 ` Andrew Morton
2010-04-07 16:49 ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-06 14:47 ` [PATCH 0/14] Memory Compaction v7 Tarkan Erimer
2010-04-06 15:00 ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-06 15:03 ` Tarkan Erimer
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-03-30 9:14 [PATCH 0/14] Memory Compaction v6 Mel Gorman
2010-03-30 9:14 ` [PATCH 13/14] Do not compact within a preferred zone after a compaction failure Mel Gorman
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